I want to handle a situation biblically. I am on my churchโs mission committee. We have been asked to support [a parachurch missions organization, henceforth, “PMO”]. Several members of the committee have voiced concerns over the PMO’s position on CRT [Critical Race Theory] and LQBTQ issues. We have provided evidence in the form of video and internal PMO documents. We voted not to support this PMO, but after the meeting, the elder who oversees our committee emailed and said we can only voice issues if we have evidence from the PMO’s public website, and he has scheduled a meeting for us to listen to the PMO’s representatives share their ministry because he believes we are misrepresenting it. I do not want to attend this meeting. I am not even sure if I should continue serving on the committee. He only gave us 24 hours notice of the meeting. How should I respond?
(I have redacted the name of this particular PMO because the reader’s question is about how to handle this situation, not about the PMO itself, and because my answer could apply to any number of demonstrably false teachers or organizations. To name this well known organization would require me to provide and explain the voluminous evidence that this PMO does, indeed, vehemently endorse CRT (watch the video series linked above) and is becoming increasingly unbiblical in their position on perversion. I plan to deal with that in another article about this particular PMO at some point, but dealing with it here would make this article much too long and involved.)
I know thatโs a difficult spot to be in, and, having been in similar situations myself, I certainly sympathize.
If youโre married, and your husband is a Christian, the first thing you should do (which you probably have done, I just like to begin at the beginning :0) is to thoroughly discuss this with your husband and find out what he wants you to do, and do that.
Hebrews 13:17a says, โObey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account.โ This elder is not doing his Titus 1:9, 3:10-11 duty to keep watch over the souls of his flock. He is harming them and calling some of them (the discerning committee members) liars. And he will have to give an account of all of that to God. You discerning committee members are actually Godโs grace to him to protect him from this sin and subsequent judgment, and he apparently doesnโt realize or appreciate that.
Heโs got several credible, doctrinally sound committee members coming to him, warning him about a legitimate biblical issue, and heโs basically telling them theyโre wrong in favor of letting the serpents come into the church and further deceive him and the other, less discerning, members of the committee.
The point of this is for the members of the committee to be swayed to support him and the PMO because this is what he wants. Heย wantsย to support the PMO. If theyโre doing the things you and the other concerned committee members say theyโre doing (and they are โ thereโs plenty of reputable evidence out there to prove it, including what you found), does heย reallyย think the representatives are going to admit to it when they visit? Of course not. Theyโre going to speak, softly, gently, and lovingly. Theyโre going to be personable and witty. Theyโre going to give all the right biblical answers. Theyโre going to say whatever they think this elder wants to hear so heโll side with them and give them the churchโs money.
Something Amy and I have discussed several times on the podcast is this dynamic of sensuality (in the classical sense of the word: โappealing to the sensesโ of sight, hearing, etc.). Itโs exactly what Satan did in the Garden to convince Eve to eat the fruit (see the section on Genesis 3, here). He smooth talked her and appealed to her senses โ her feelings โ which she followed over her reason: that which she already knew with her brain that God had commanded. (Sensuality is why, for example, itโs easier to be objective about whether or not the lyrics of a worship song are biblical when you read the lyrics from a piece of paper rather than listening to the song. The music appeals to your sense of hearing and your emotions, which can override your rational, objective reasoning.)
Thatโs why โ whether he realizes it or not โ your elder is bringing these people in to meet with you in person. Itโs a lot easier to appeal to peopleโs senses and feelings face to face and with your sincere tone of voice and sparkling personality than it is to sway them with facts on a piece of paper.
I really hate to say these things about your elder, but either heโs being underhanded, or heโs well intentioned, yet incredibly gullible and undiscerning. (In fact, he may be allowing his feelings of sentimentality for this PMO to sway him even though he can clearly see the evidence that their beliefs and practices contradict Scripture.)
Either way, assuming this is his general state instead of this being a one time slip up, both of these things are disqualifying (see the qualifications for elders in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 and Titus 1:5-9). One of the requirements for elders in the Titus 1 passage is in verse 9:
He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
Heโs not โrebuking those who contradictโ sound doctrine (the PMO), heโs being a corrupt gatekeeper and welcoming the wolves into his sheepfold. If he doesnโt repent, especially if this is a pattern for him, he has disqualified himself from eldership.
An additional issue is โ what in the world is going on here with your church’s polity? Your committee voted not to fund this PMO and this elder singlehandedly overrules the committee? Why does the committee even exist? Is it just supposed to be a rubber stamp for whatever any particular elder wants? That’s not biblical.
Furthermore, why is he so locked in on this particular PMO? There are dozens of doctrinally sound missions organizations out there that your church could support and that your committee and your elder could probably unanimously agree on. Why does it have to be this PMO? (My guess: He worked for them in the past or has some sort of personal connection to them, ergo, the sentimentality, or there’s somebody he knows who works for this PMO that he wants to support using the church’s finances. This could be a conflict of interest.)
What I would do is to go to the meeting with my phone in hand, voice memo app open, and let it be known that youโre going to be recording the meeting so you can listen to it again later to make sure you havenโt misunderstood or missed anything. Do not try to hide the fact that youโre recording it. That makes you look sneaky and deceptive, plus, you have nothing to hide. You’re not doing anything wrong. This is just an electronic form of taking notes. Additionally, if youโre told, by the elder or the PMO representatives, that you canโt record the meeting, that speaks volumes about their motives.
After the meeting, the discerning members of the committee should go back to the elder and talk to him again. (You might want to really emphasize my point above that if the PMO were guilty of doing these things, they wouldnโt admit it.). If he digs his heels in and your church hierarchy has another elder or head pastor above him in the chain of command, make an appointment with him, take your whole group, and express your concerns to him. Go as far up the chain of command as you can until you get to the top or until somebody listens and deals with this elder.
If the elder is at the top of the chain of command, and supporting false teachers/doctrine is typical of the way he operates, and he doesnโt repent, you need to find out what your churchโs protocol is for initiating church discipline with an elder and the discerning male members of the committee, your husband, and/or other appropriate men should initiate it. If there is no protocol and he canโt be removed and doesnโt repent, Iโd go ahead and find a new church. But until you do (or if you decide to stay at this church despite this issue), explore your church’s options for designating your offerings so your money doesn’t go to support this PMO.
If you have a question about: a Bible passage, an aspect of theology, a current issue in Christianity, or how to biblically handle a family, life, or church situation, comment below (Iโll hold all questions in queue {unpublished} for a future edition of The Mailbag) or send me an e-mail. If your question is chosen for publication, your anonymity will be protected.
Want to share your testimony? Scroll down to the end of this article to find out how!
Allie’s Story:
I was not raised in a Christian home. However, my mom and dad were, and are, very loving parents. Without knowing the Lord, they cared about godly values and taught us the importance of virtue and wholesomeness. I see this as Godโs grace protecting me from a lot of sin that I could easily have gotten involved in. They wanted to raise my siblings and me to be familiar with lots of different religions and belief systems, and so the โchurchโ that we attended growing up was quite a melting pot of those things. We were introduced to some of the Bible, but it was presented right alongside many other religious scriptures and teachings, each of them being presented as equal paths to God. We prided ourselves on being tolerant, but the irony is that the main thing that we were intolerant of was true biblical Christianity.ย
Jesus clearly said in John 14:6, โI am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.โ. Sadly, I didnโt believe that the Bible was the entirely true and infallible Word of God growing up. The dangers of New Age religion is that you firmly believe that you have the most enlightened viewpoint and that everyone else, especially fundamentalist Christians, are close minded and not truly understanding the Bible or why Jesus came. Any concept of sin, atonement, or Godโs judgment is viewed as harsh and man-made and instead, everyone is seen as ultimately good and connected with the Divine. I was completely into this โspiritual but not religiousโ movement and we worshiped the idol of self and whatever felt good and sounded comfortable. I had a completely backwards view on everythingโ I loved what God hates and hated what He lovesโ and was headed towards hell and Godโs righteous judgment.ย
Toward the end of high school, I began to be interested in more things of a Christian nature, through books and music and such. In my senior year, we moved from Wisconsin to Michigan, another aspect where I see Godโs grace being very present, as we left our old church and life behind with the move. In Michigan, not only did we have a new friend group that was mainly made up of Christian families, but we also started attending a church that taught the Bible as the Word of God for the first time. It was not a church that I would attend today since they mainly sought to be relevant and preached a very watered-down, seeker-sensitive gospel, but God graciously used that time to open my heart to His Word.
At this point I was reading my Bible daily and wrestling with so many questions. Outwardly, I was already this โgood, Christian, homeschooled girlโ to my new friends but inwardly I doubted my salvation, and for a good reason. I had never repented of my sins and trusted in Jesus alone to save me. I was trusting in my own works and believing a mashed up version of some Bible verses and a lot of made up things that I wanted to be true.
God used a year of some Bible teaching at that church, lots of individual study of the Word, and some very humbling events to show me my desperate need for a Savior. One day at church, it all came to a head for me and I recognized my pride and facade for what it was. The Holy Spiritโs conviction was strong and I was clearly aware that I was not adopted into Godโs family of believers. And I needed to be. Immediately.
That morning after the service I repented of my sins and trusted in Christ alone for salvation! I got baptized that day and submitted fully to Godโs Word and ways, trusting in Him alone and not my good works. I cannot convey the freedom and joy that welled up in my heart that day as my greatest problem was taken care of and I was set free from sin to live for Christ. By Godโs grace, my mom and sister both got saved within a month of me and we had the sweetest fellowship time reading our Bibles and growing in submission to the Lord. We found a new church that preached the full, beautiful gospel and taught expositionally from the Word each week.
A week after being born again, I began to experience anxiety and panic attacks, something that I had as a child but was again resurfacing. Satan seems to capitalize on the naivety of new believers and God was allowing me to see more of my weakness and my need for Him. My pride would like to tell you that this is something that I quickly conquered, but in truth, I still battle anxiety to this day. I have learned much from the apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 12 when he talks about his โthorn in the flesh.โย
Of course, anxiety is not my only area of weakness, and I have become more and more aware, throughout the years, of my sinful flesh and its constant opposition to the things of God. But, I praise God that His Spirit lives in me to conquer the flesh as I am called to daily take up my cross and follow Him. In Christ, I have been set free from slavery to sin and have become a slave of righteousness, as Romans 6 explains. Iโm so thankful that sanctification is both a one time event at justification but also a continual process.ย
I want to point out three areas of Godโs work in my life that I pray will be applicable for you.
The first is this: Christ is not needed only by those whose lives have hit rock bottom. I greatly enjoyed my childhood and was walking with the assumption that I was a good person who cared about spiritual things and inclusivity and so that was enough. The truth is that my rebellious heart towards the exclusivity of Christ was just as vile to God as the heart of anyone in history has ever been. I was separated from God by my sins and headed toward hell for eternity. Christ offers the free gift of salvation for anyone at any time and today is the day of salvation! I urge you not to wait as long as I did to be right with Him.
The second point has to do with my pride. I was in a place right before I got saved where I struggled with the fact that I already was identifying as a Christian and most of my friends probably thought that I was a believer. I thought if I truly got saved at that point, those around me would think I was faking it before then, which I was. I beg you not to let this keep you from being saved. Being identified with Christ in His death means also experiencing the death of our pride, and we should feel the sting of denying ourselves and being crucified with Christ as Galatians 2:20 says.
My third point is that coming to Christ does not make all of our problems go away. This is a dangerous misunderstanding of the gospel. As Christians, we are told by Jesus that in this life we will have trouble. We will experience persecution, criticism, opposition from Satan and from the world, perhaps even those very dear to us. However, I cannot convey to you the surpassing worth of knowing Christ. We can receive complete forgiveness of sins as well as abundant life now and for eternity!
Please donโt stop praying earnestly for your unsaved friends and family. If you had known me 10 years ago, I was that person that drove you crazy on Facebook and in person with my prideful resistance to the gospel. I am still amazed at the 180ยบ turn that has come from being saved.ย I truly became a new creation, as 2 Corinthians 5:17 speaks of.
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
2 Corinthians 5:17
I went from trusting in myself and making God to be who I wanted Him to be, to fully submitting to Christ and delighting that Godโs ways are higher than mine. That is the amazing thing about regeneration! Any time God chooses and saves a sinner it is a miracle and worthy of our constant remembrance and praise. Christ is a treasure far greater than anything this world could offer and I pray that you may also know Him as Savior and Lord!
If you are in the New Age movement, or were saved out of the New Age movement and need a little help and encouragement from someone who’s been there, I highly recommend my friend Doreen Virtue and her YouTube channel as a wonderful resource.
Ladies, God is still at work in the hearts and lives of His people, including yours! Would you like to share (anonymously, if you like) a testimony of how God saved you, how He has blessed you, convicted you, taught you something from His Word, brought you out from under false doctrine, placed you in a good church or done something otherwise awesome in your life? Drop me an email, and I’ll send you the particulars for sharing your story. Letโs encourage one another with Godโs work in our lives!
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I get lots of questions about particular authors, pastors, and Bible teachers, and whether or not I recommend them. Some of the best known can be found above at my Popular False Teachers tab. The teacher below is someone I’ve been asked about recently, so I’ve done a quick check (this is brief research, not exhaustive) on her.
Generally speaking, in order for me to recommend a teacher, speaker, or author, he or she has to meet three criteria:
a) A female teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly preach to or teach men in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual).
b) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers. This is a violation of Scripture.
c) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be teaching false doctrine.
I am not very familiar with most of the teachers I’m asked about (there are so many out there!) and have not had the opportunity to examine their writings or hear them speak, so most of the “quick checking” I do involves items a and b (although in order to partner with false teachers (b) it is reasonable to assume their doctrine is acceptable to the false teacher and that they are not teaching anything that would conflict with the false teacher’s doctrine). Partnering with false teachers and women preaching to men are each sufficient biblical reasons not to follow a pastor, teacher, or author, or use his/her materials.
Just to be clear, “not recommended” is a spectrum. On one end of this spectrum are people like Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth and Kay Arthur. These are people I would not label as false teachers because their doctrine is generally sound, but because of some red flags I’m seeing with them, you won’t find me proactively endorsing them or suggesting them as a good resource, either. There are better people you could be listening to. On the other end of the spectrum are people like Joyce Meyer and Rachel Held Evans- complete heretics whose teachings, if believed, might lead you to an eternity in Hell. Most of the teachers I review fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum (leaning toward the latter).
If you’d like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click the Recommended Bible Teachers tab at the top of this page.
Ruth Chou Simons Not Recommended
According to her website, “Ruth Chou Simons is a Wall Street Journal bestselling and award-winning author of several books… She is an artist, entrepreneur, and speaker, using each of these platforms to spiritually sow the Word of God into peopleโs hearts. Through her online shoppe at GraceLaced.com and her social media community, Simons shares her journey of Godโs grace intersecting daily life with word and art. Ruth and her husband, Troy, are grateful parents to six boysโtheir greatest adventure.”
“Birds of a feather flock together.”
“If you lie down with dogs, you’ll get up with fleas.”
The Bible teaches us, and even the world seems to know, that ungodly people will have a deleterious influence and effect on us. This is one reason the Bible commands us over and over not to associate ourselves or have anything to do with false teachers or those who claim to be Christians, yet live in willful unrepentant sin (persistent false teaching being one of those sins). In fact, to associate with false teachers and fail to rebuke them for their false doctrine disqualifies pastors from ministry. Dare we expect any less from female teachers?
Unfortunately, unrepentantly yoking with false teachers has become a major snare for Ruth Chou Simons. Teachers are under a stricter judgment, and this rampant sin disqualifies her.
Partnering with, and Influenced by False Teachers (Including Female “Pastors”/Preachers)
Ruth’s life and ministry are absolutely saturated with false and problematic teachers, nearly to the exclusion of doctrinally sound teachers (at least this is the way publicly available information about her ministry associations makes it appear).
There are so many examples of her partnering with false teachers that it would be impossible to cite them all, but here is a sampling:
Television
Ruth has appeared numerous times on TBN’s Better Together. If you’re not familiar, it’s a little bit like a “Christian” version of The View without the studio audience. A group of several (varying) women’s “Bible” study celebrities discuss life issues and biblical topics. And par for the course for TBN, they’re all problematic at best, raging heretics at worst. (There’s a reason TBN is often wryly dubbed the “Total Blasphemy Network”.)
Ruth has also participated with the IF:Gathering team to create other media.
*See the final section of this article, “Other Issues of Interest and Concern” for a compelling, biblical review of Ruth’s 2020 IF:Gathering teaching session.
Ruth is part of Lifeway Women’s (the women’s division of Lifeway) stable of authors and conference speakers. The prototypical Lifeway Women author/speaker preaches to men, yokes with false teachers, and teaches false doctrine. (This is why you can feel comfortable making an across the board decision not to follow, listen to, or purchase the materials of a teacher if she’s platformed by Lifeway Women.) Ruth and her materials have been featured in articles, podcasts, giveaways, and so on a number of times at Lifeway Women.
Lifeway Women Live 2021. Photo courtesy of Lifeway Newsroom. Seated L-R: Jackie Hill Perry, Angie Smith, Kristi McLelland, and Ruth Chou Simons
The Gospel Coalition (TGC) should be avoided in general. While it may have been doctrinally sound 15-20 years ago, it has been on a progressive trajectory ever since. Today, TGC is woke, egalitarian, soft on perversion, has a social justice bent, and mishandles Scripture.
Ruth has spoken at some recent TGCW conferences alongside too many false teachers, women preachers/pastors, and “same sex attracted Christians” (yes, you read that right – I told you TGC has gone progressive) to list. One of these was TGCW24 (you can see all of the speakers listed here).
Women of Joy is a women’s conference organization that, for all its extensive proclamations of being “Bible first” and “Bible-based” (“No need to worry about the content that you will hear”!), seems to book false teachers – including women “pastors” and women who preach to men – as speakers almost exclusively.
“Extraordinary Womenโs mission is to host Christian womenโs events and provide resources that equip women to handle lifeโs difficulties while enriching their hearts, encouraging their souls and expanding their ministries.” Somehow they hope to do this by booking mainly false teachers to speak at their events.
Come and See Foundation fundraiser. Ruth will be speaking at a private event for this foundation, the purpose of which is to raise money for the production, translation, and distribution of the hideously unbiblical program, The Chosen.
In this episode of Ruth’s podcast, she featured the audio of her panel discussion with Jen Wilkin and Jada Edwards (who preaches frequently at the church her husband pastors) at Ruth’s “Pilgrim Stories” event.
If you’re not paying careful attention, and you don’t dig a little, you might be misled by the banner at the top of the Speaking page of Ruth’s website. “WOMENS EVENTS & CONFERENCES,” it boldly proclaims. Perhaps your initial reaction is (as mine was), “Great! That means she only teaches at women’s events!”.
Unfortunately, this is not the case. Ruth does – regularly and unrepentantly – violate Scripture by preaching to and instructing men in the Scriptures. Currently listed on her calendar of events are three co-ed evangelical events, at which it is reasonable to presume she will be speaking to co-ed audiences on biblical topics: the Sing! Conference, the Come and See Foundation Fundraiser, and the Turning Point Summit*.
*There is a women’s luncheon “hosted by a special guest” one of the days of the Summit, so, although Ruth’s calendar indicates she will be there for the whole event, it’s possible she’s only speaking at this luncheon and not to any co-ed audiences. This doesn’t lessen the point that she preaches to men, I just want to be accurate.
Previous events at which Ruth has preached to men:
Ruth was a keynotespeaker at the 2024 Asian American Leadership Conference. According to the FAQ page, “This conference is primarily for pastors and leaders serving in or adjacent to Asian American ministry contexts. However, this conference is not exclusively for pastors or ministry leaders.”
TGC23 – The Gospel Coalition’s National Conference (not their women’s conference, but the annual TGC conference which is co-ed). Men are clearly visible in this co-ed breakout session audience from the beginning of the video.
And, while one of her sessions at the2024 conference was geared toward moms, the other session she taught, “Preaching the Truth to Yourself and Your Child” was in the “Family Discipleship” track. It was not labeled as being for women and since fathers are responsible for leading family worship/discipleship, it is reasonable to assume there were men in attendance. Let me reiterate: a woman teaching men how to be the spiritual leaders of their homes.
Ruth preached a 2018 chapel service to the (co-ed) student body at Oklahoma Baptist University. Chapel attendance is required of all students as course credit for graduation.
Both I and a couple of my eagle-eyed research team members noticed that in several interviews (such as the one on Revive Our Hearts’ Grounded podcast above), in a series on her own podcast, and in various other discussions, articles, teaching sessions, and so on, Ruth talks a lot about “spiritual formation” and “spiritual disciplines”.
Thereโs a good bit of confusion these days in evangelicalism over spiritual formation. Spiritual Formationย proper is an unbiblical system of mysticism led by people like Richard Foster and the late Dallas Willard. Some churches and individuals are not aware of this, and think theย termย โSpiritual Formationโ is just a trendy, cutting edge synonym forย “biblicalย discipleship” or training in Christian character, and, unfortunately, that’s how they use the term, creating no end of confusion.
Until the Spiritual Formation movement came along and co-opted it to include unbiblical, mystical practices,ย spiritual disciplinesย was legitimate theological terminology for practicesย taught in Scriptureย that help us to grow in Christ: Bible reading, prayer, worship, Scripture memory, giving, serving the church, evangelism, etc. Many doctrinally sound churches and Christians still use this term correctly and it does not mean theyโre into mysticism or Spiritual Formation. (One example is Don Whitney in his excellent and doctrinally sound book,ย Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life, which was the subject of Ruth’s aforementioned podcast series.)
Unlike The Daily Grace Co. (and some other evangelical teachers and organizations) which has espoused Spiritual Formation proper, from what I can tell without examining every single thing she’s ever written or said on the subject, Ruth seems to fall into the second category of evangelicals who use the term “spiritual formation” to mean “biblical discipleship” and use the classical (biblical) definition of “spiritual disciplines”.
I listened to Ruth’s Spiritual Disciplines podcast episode on silence and solitude, Worthy of Your Full Attention. In Spiritual Formation proper, silence and solitude are for the unbiblical practices of lectio divina, contemplative prayer, some sort of Christian-y mindfulness, or the like. But this is not what Ruth describes. She talks about unplugging, going for a walk or being in a quiet room, and appreciating the beauty of God’s Creation, reciting and/or reflecting on Scripture, or praying. It’s not exactly your every day, formal Bible study and prayer time, but it’s a perfectly biblical way to rest your mind at other times.
From what I’ve seen so far, and unless I see hard evidence to the contrary, I don’t believe Ruth is teaching Spiritual Formation proper.
Discontent and Hollow Hope
I have no doubt whatsoever that Ruth loves and cherishes her children. She even says so at the beginning of this brief interview about her book Now and Not Yet: Pressing In When You’re Waiting, Wanting, and Restless for More.
That’s why it gave me pause when she described raising her children as “tedious” and as a stage of her life where she was “not getting where she wanted to go”. The subtle message that comes across is that motherhood is not a purposeful, God-glorifying end in itself. It’s a way station on the journey to where you really want to be, the thing that’s really important and purposeful.
So I read the sample chapter of the book that’s available at Amazon, and that’s the same impression I got of the overall theme of the book: “First, let’s commiserate in how tough things are right now, girlfriend, but cheer up! One day you’ll be where you really want to be in life.” This is not biblical. It reinforces sinful discontentment by training the reader to covet and put her hope in better life circumstances that God has not ordained for her at this time.
Now, not having read the entire book, perhaps I’m wrong. Perhaps somewhere after chapter 1, she really does stop telling personal anecdotes and experiences, she drills down into rightly handled, in context Scripture, and she teaches the biblical perspective on all of this: contentment. The Bible doesn’t teach us to get through trials and frustrations by putting our hope in better days ahead. The Bible teaches us to be content and put our hope in Christ, whatever our circumstances.
I have learned in whatever situation I am to be content. I know how to be brought low, and I know how to abound. In any and every circumstance, I have learned the secret of facing plenty and hunger, abundance and need. I can do all things through him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:11b-13
Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. James 1:2-3
Nothing, not a word about focusing on a brighter future to get us through the unpleasantness of the moment. Contentment in Christ. Joy in being conformed to the image of Christ. That’s what the Bible teaches us about our difficult circumstances.
At the end of the interview when the host asks Ruth for a parting word to the audience, she has the perfect opportunity to share the gospel – to share real hope in Christ with millions of people. And she punts to, “Your ‘someday’ is made up of thousands of ‘right nows’.” Something any Buddhist, New Ager, or atheist could have come up with. A hollow shell of an empty promise. Not the gospel.
One of my researchers described her style as “self-help”. I would describe my impression of Ruth’s teaching as “evangeligirl life management”. Ruth doesn’t handle Scripture well. She talks around the gospel and clear cut, hard hitting biblical doctrine and principles, opting instead for fuzzy, watercolored Christianese platitudes and practical tips expressed in pretty penmanship with a Bible verse sprinkled in here and there. I would say her theology is a mile wide and an inch deep, but that would be grossly overestimating how wide it is. There’s just no substantive biblical there there. And to bring things full circle, that’s due, in no small part, to the influence false teachers have had on her.
I’d like to be able to recommend Ruth to you as a trustworthy source of biblical teaching. I really would. She seems fun and very nice, and I greatly admire her artistic talent. But when you have difficulty rightly handling Scripture, and you rebel against God’s Word by preaching to men and yoking with false teachers, you’re not a trustworthy source of biblical teaching, no matter how sweet and talented you are. I would encourage you not to follow or receive teaching from Ruth Chou Simons.
Many thanks to my research team for providing some of the links and information above. If youโd like to become part of my research team,ย click here.
This article crosses a line…it’s bashing…mean-hearted…We shouldn’t be looking to twist a knife or bask in โI warned youโ glory…so settled in our sense of rightness that we canโt grieve for those who are struggling.
…reading that [we should pray for Beth Moore’s salvation] after all the condescension comes off as more of a southern โbless her heartโ.
…this article comes across as sanctimonious with zero grace. It complete [sic] discounts the power of God to transform the most wayward heart….ostracizing and belittling those leaders who fall…I felt a lot of smugness in the article…lack of grace and love…[coming] from a place of superiority…[being] gleeful when sin comes to light…take on the role of judge and executioner…
Michelle: So it’s OK for you to bash me, but it’s not OK for me to “bash” Beth?
I’m not bashing you.
Whenever I post an article about Beth Moore or another false teacher, I invariably get comments like this on social media, the gist of which is that I’m being unloving for saying that she is a false teacher, for rebuking her sin, for recommending that Christian women not receive teaching from her, for my “tone” of using stark language, and so on. (I always find it ironic that the commenter is usually bashing me even as she’s accusing me of “bashing” the false teacher.)
Such was the case last Friday when I posted my article Bye-Bye Beth: What Beth Mooreโs Split with the SBC Means. I’ve posted excerpts above from several comments about the article made by one woman – not to single her out, but because her accusations and phraseology typify so well the pushback I often receive from those of the “You’re being unloving” persuasion. There were a few other women who responded in the same vein on the same Facebook post(s), so this lady – who, I must say, was much more polite and articulate in expressing her thoughts than most usually are – was not alone in her viewpoint.
I have not excerpted this lady’s comments in order to take them out of context or misrepresent her, but because her comments were far too many and too lengthy to post in full. Assuming they have not been deleted, If you would like to read her comments (and those of the other dissenting women) in full to make sure I’m presenting an accurate picture of the thrust of their sentiments, I would encourage you to do so here, here, and here. (Please do not address these women any further. They have spoken their minds in full, and they have been addressed sufficiently. There is no need to pile on.)
So to those who would accuse me of being unloving or hateful, who shame me that “Jesus would never talk to people that way,” who think my wording is too harsh, unkind, not gentle enough, etc., here’s my answer…
You’re defining “love” as my saying something in a way that you’re comfortable with and doesn’t offend your sensibilities.
That’s not how the Bible defines it. And that’s why Jesus was able to speak to the Pharisees…
…woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces…you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. Woe to you, blind guides!…You blind fools!…You blind men!…full of greed and self-indulgence…you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness…you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness…you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?..on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar.
Matthew 23
…and God was able to speak about His idolatrous people…
And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoring lust. And after she was defiled by them, she turned from them in disgust. When she carried on her whoring so openly and flaunted her nakedness, I turned in disgust from her, as I had turned in disgust from her sister. Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young breasts.โ
Ezekiel 23:17-21
…so much more harshly and starkly than I’ve spoken about Beth in this article, and yet He is still the perfect embodiment of love, and the perfect example of love to us.
Using your definition of love, if you’re going to be fair and consistent, if you accuse me of speaking in an unloving way in this article, you have to accuse God of speaking in an unloving way in Ezekiel 23 and Jesus of speaking in an unloving way in Matthew 23.
But the Bible defines love like this:
God is love. In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 1 John 4:8b-11
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
Because God is love, God alone has the right to define love. And God defines love as the redemption, restoration, and reconciliation of man to Himself. Love isn’t someone making you feel good about yourself or the world or your circumstances. Love isn’t being outwardly “nice”: always being the epitome of sweetness, never confronting anyone, affirming everything, never hurting anyone’s feelings, never saying or doing anything that makes anyone uncomfortable.
Because God is love, God alone has the right to define love. And God defines love as the redemption, restoration, and reconciliation of man to Himself.
While the world looks at a person’s outward, observable behavior and pronounces her loving or unloving depending on how pleasing that behavior is to others, God looks at a person’s heart and pronounces her loving or unloving to the extent that her motives match His.
…the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.
1 Samuel 16:7b
God defines love as cooperating with Him in rescuing the perishing, building up the church, and showcasing His glory. Sometimes that’s going to look like binding up the brokenhearted or healing the untouchable leper, and sometimes that’s going to look clearing the temple or calling false teachers a brood of vipers. While the world would call the former “loving” and the latter “hateful” based on what those behaviors look like, God calls both loving if they spring from a heart motivated to rescue, redeem, restore, and reconcile.
Sometimes biblical love looks like binding up the brokenhearted or healing the untouchable leper, and sometimes it looks like clearing the temple or calling false teachers a brood of vipers.
So, when you say I’m being “unloving” to use stringent language about false teachers (like God, Jesus, the prophets, and the apostles did), and I say you’re wrong, it’s because we’re using two different definitions of love. You’re using a worldly definition of love based on how pleasing my outward behavior was to you. I’m using God’s definition of love that’s based on the motivation of my heart. You cannot tell me I’m not demonstrating biblical love in a situation like this because you don’t know the motivation of my heart. I do. The article in question (like so many others about which I’m accused of being unloving) was motivated by love – God’s definition of love – for
Beth – that God would graciously remove the scales from her eyes and save her
Beth’s fans – that God would open their eyes to deception they’re believing and lead them to repentance and sound doctrine
Discerning Christians – that they might be encouraged not to let their guard down but to keep contending for the faith once for all delivered to saints
The church – that it would cleanse out the leaven of false teaching so that Christ might present her to Himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
and the Southern Baptist Convention – that it might forsake the idols of money, power, and celebrity, and return to its first love, Christ.
But it was also motivated by another component of love which the worldly definition of love, being worldly, is completely oblivious to. You see, the world’s definition of love only concerns itself with the “horizontal” love between one human being and another. But God’s definition of love finds its origin in Himself. He is the foundation and the culmination of love. He is both the starting gun and the finish line in the race of love. Where there is no vertical love of God, there is no horizontal love between people. There may be friendship, attraction, affection, attachment, and emotion, but there is no true love.
God’s definition of love finds its origin in Himself. Where there’s no vertical love of God, there is no horizontal love between people. So any biblical -rather than worldly- definition of love must start and finish with love for God.
And so any biblical – rather than worldly – definition of love must start and finish with love for God. Only a heart that loves Him because He first loved me can extend that same redemptive, restorative love to others.
And though I have never, and will never, this side of Glory, love Him as completely and perfectly as I should – as I want to – those articles that offend your sensibilities, that you feel justified in berating me about because they don’t meet your standards, those articles are rooted in and motivated by love for the Christ whom I serve. I would not continue to do what I do and take the abuse I take for it if I did not love Him.
I’ve heard this whole “tone police” perspective a million times. I’ve prayed about it. I’ve considered it. I’ve weighed the motivations of my heart. And in cases in which I know before the Lord that my motives have truly been unloving, I’ve repented. But the astronomically overwhelming majority of accusations I receive are not from people concerned with the biblical definition of love, but from people using a worldly definition of love whose personal sensibilities have been offended. People who wish to correct me from the authority and standard of their feelings, not from the authority and standard of God’s Word.
And as I’ve prayed, and studied, and weighed, and considered all of these things, the conclusion the Lord has graciously led me to is that there’s no way I will ever please every single one of the thousands of people who hear me. Just like Jesus’ words didn’t please all the people who heard Him, or John the Baptist’s words, or Peter’s, or Paul’s, or Noah’s, or Ezekiel’s, or Jeremiah’s, orโฆ (you know, I’m starting to think I’m in good company!)
So rather than trying to please man, I’m going to strive to please God. If my conscience is clear before Him, that’s all that matters.
The fear of man lays a snare, but whoever trusts in the Lord is safe. Proverbs 29:25
For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. Galatians 1:10
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I get lots of questions about particular authors, pastors, and Bible teachers, and whether or not I recommend them. Some of the best known can be found above at my Popular False Teachers tab. The teacher below is someone I’ve been asked about recently, so I’ve done a quick check (this is brief research, not exhaustive) on him.
Generally speaking, in order for me to recommend a teacher, speaker, or author, he or she has to meet three criteria:
a) A female teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly preach to or teach men in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual).
b) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers. This is a violation of Scripture.
c) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be teaching false doctrine.
I am not very familiar with most of the teachers I’m asked about (there are so many out there!) and have not had the opportunity to examine their writings or hear them speak, so most of the “quick checking” I do involves items a and b (although in order to partner with false teachers (b) it is reasonable to assume their doctrine is acceptable to the false teacher and that they are not teaching anything that would conflict with the false teacher’s doctrine). Partnering with false teachers and women preaching to men are each sufficient biblical reasons not to follow a pastor, teacher, or author, or use his/her materials.
Just to be clear, “not recommended” is a spectrum. On one end of this spectrum are people like Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth and Kay Arthur. These are people I would not label as false teachers because their doctrine is generally sound, but because of some red flags I’m seeing with them, you won’t find me proactively endorsing them or suggesting them as a good resource, either. There are better people you could be listening to. On the other end of the spectrum are people like Joyce Meyer and Rachel Held Evans- complete heretics whose teachings, if believed, might lead you to an eternity in Hell. Most of the teachers I review fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum (leaning toward the latter).
If you’d like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click the Recommended Bible Teachers tab at the top of this page.
The Daily Grace Co. Not Recommended
(Listen to the abbreviated A Word Fitly Spoken podcast version of this article: Glad You Asked: Discernment- part 2. The segment on The Daily Grace Co. begins at approximately 25:36)
“The Daily Grace Co. exists to equip disciples to know and love God and His Word by creating beautiful, theologically rich, and accessible resources so that God may be glorified and the gospel made known.”
The Daily Grace Co. (henceforth, “DG”) started out in 2014 as a small, “kitchen table” publisher of Bible studies. Today, “We offer over 50 Bible Studies, both topical and on books of the Bible. Over the past 10 years, we’ve shipped over 3 million Bible studies that have helped individuals grow in their love and knowledge of God’s word.” DG has also expanded into a parachurch ministry, with podcasts, magazines, live chats, speaking engagements, online Bible study “communities,” and their own DG conference.
According to the Meet the Team page of DGโs website. Kristin Schmucker is the โCEO and Visionary forโ DG. She is married to Jeremy. โJeremy’s role as President [of DG] is to implement the vision of the CEO.โ
Depending on which part of the website you read, DGC employs between 51 and 64 people, which theyโre looking to double by 2025. This is no longer a kitchen table โministryโ of one or two or a handful of Christian women volunteering their spare time to write a few Bible studies and put out a podcast. This is a full blown production business. They have a large headquarters building in Spring, Texas. When they say Daily Grace Company, they mean it. Itโs a company.
Now, let’s be absolutely clear from the get go. There is nothing unbiblical, in and of itself, about Christians running a successful company and/or parachurch ministry, selling Christian books and products, and making a reasonable profit. I know of several such companies and parachurch ministries which manage to do so while maintaining sound doctrine, and without compromising on Scripture. The issues with DG are not that it is a successful business and ministry, but the way it became, and continues to be, a successful business and ministry.
When it comes to doing business in evangelicalism, you have two choices: you can stick to Scripture no matter what, and let the financial chips fall where they may, or you can pursue profit and opportunities to expand your reach by compromising – a little or a lot – on Scripture. Look at how many millions your major false teachers are worth and how famous they are compared to even the most prolific doctrinally sound pastor or teacher you can think of. The bottom line is, you can turn a decent, legitimate, and biblical profit by sticking to Scripture and sound doctrine, but there’s much more money to be made and fame to be achieved by scratching itching ears and compromising on Scripture. As Jesus so wisely said:
No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
Matthew 6:24
And one of the ways to expand both your reach and your profit margin is to hitch your wagon to the stars of false teachers.
Partnering with, and Influenced by False Teachers (Including Female “Pastors”/Preachers)
In the spring of 2024, I learned that DG had hosted what they call a pop up shop at IF:Gathering 2024. A pop up shop is a booth at a conference or other event where DG sells its products. They give 10% of the profits to the organization hosting the event. From the size of the IF crowd it appears the arrangement was mutually financially beneficial. But at what cost? Scripture commands us not to partner with false teachers.
DG also had a merchandise space at IF:Gathering 2023 and helped sponsor the conference by donating attendee swag bags. Notice, too, in this post from Jeremy, that he mentions sitting under teaching from the “keynote speakers”. You can find a list of IF 2023 speakers here and see for yourself that they are mostly women (IF speakers are typically women “pastors,” women who preach to men, false teachers, and woke). So, Jeremy, the president of DG, violates Scripture’s prohibition on women instructing men in the Scriptures by voluntarily sitting under the teaching of women.
I scrolled through the DG podcast feed and took note of a few of their problematic guests with recognizable names, which have included Chrystal Evans Hurst (false teacher and Tony Evans‘ daughter, Priscilla Shirer‘s sister), Jen Wilkin, both of whom preach to men, and Sharon Hodde Miller, who is a female โpastorโ. In one podcast episode I listened to, Kristin positively quoted Craig Groeschel on leadership.
In this blog article (originally published in DG’s Be Still magazine, issue #1) titled Learning By Heart, Melissa Emma describes taking part in false teacher Beth Moore’s Scripture memory program. She cites a quote fromAnn Voskamp as the reason for selecting her “word for the year“. She also positively quotes false teacher Dallas Willard.
In another blog article, Goals for 2017, the author says of Beth Moore’s book, Praying God’s Word, that she “can’t wait to dig into it to learn how to unlock the power of praying Scripture” as though Beth holds some mystical key – over and above Scripture – that will “unlock” some magical “power” of prayer. When it comes to biblical practices, such as prayer, the Bible is sufficient to teach us all we need to know. And when the disciples point blank asked Jesus to teach them to pray, He – God Himself – looked them in the eye and told them (and us) exactly how He wants us to pray. But she’d rather look to a false teacher to “unlock” this “power”. She also raves over a Lysa Terkeurst book she read, a Tara Leigh Cobble D-Group she participated in, and a Beth Moore Scripture memory program she took part in.
Here’s Kristin with another positive quote of Beth Moore:
Here, Kristin says she’s “grateful to be able to attend Bible Study with [Beth Moore] who wrote the first Bible study that I ever did.”
(It is unclear exactly what Kristin means by attending a study “with” Beth Moore. As far as I’ve been able to ascertain, Kristin and Beth do not go to the same church. However, their ministry headquarters are in proximity to each other, and Beth has taught Bible studies at her ministry headquarters, so perhaps it’s one of those Bible studies Kristin is referring to.)
One of the clearest examples of DG teaching mysticism and spiritual formation is Jennie Heideman’s June 2021 blog article, How to Practice Solitude. Now, before we even get into the content of the article, I want you to think about that title and stop and mentally flip back through your Bible. Which passage(s) of the Bible teach us about solitude, the need to “practice” it, and how to practice it? If you can’t think of any, there’s a reason for that. There aren’t any. Solitude is not a biblical spiritual discipline1.
Here’s how Jennie defines the practice of solitude:
Solitude allows us to spend time with God. But instead ofspending time with God through studying the Scripture or meditating, we are spending time with God by just being. Just like you don’t need to talk constantly with your spouse when you spend time together, spending time with God through solitude involves just being together with Him. And as we spend time with God in this way, He gives us His presence, words, direction, and peace.
So, if you were thinking, “Oh, ‘solitude’ must mean finding a quiet place, alone, to pray and study my Bible,” that’s not what Jennie means. She explicitly says “instead of” studying Scripture, you’re “just being” with God. You’re not praying, you’re not reading your Bible, you’re alone, it’s quiet. Exactly what is it you’re doing during this time of solitude? The only thing I can envision looks scarily like transcendental / New Age meditation or contemplative prayer.
And again, where does the Bible teach this practice of “just being together with God”? It doesn’t. God is omnipresent. From eternity past to eternity future, He has always been, and always will be constantly present in every millimeter of the entire universe. You are never outside of God’s presence or not “with God”. Here’s what the Bible says:
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I lift up the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, Even there Your hand will lead me, And Your right hand will lay hold of me. Psalm 139:7-10
And Jesus promised us:
…and behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Matthew 28:20b
And let’s take a closer look at that last sentence of her definition of solitude:
And as we spend time with God in this way, He gives us His presence, words, direction, and peace.
Where does the Bible teach this?
What passage of Scripture says that if we “practice solitude” God will “give us His presence”? It doesn’t. As we’ve already seen, God is always with us because He’s omnipresent, plus, as Believers, the Holy Spirit indwells us. You couldn’t get away from God’s presence if you wanted to. Nobody could. What Jennie is talking about is some sort of phantasmagorical goose bumps. A mystical feeling of what is supposedly “God’s presence”. And that’s not taught in Scripture either. That’s the idolatry of feelings and experiences.
Where does Scripture say that if we “practice solitude” God will give us His “words” and “direction”? It doesn’t. God instructs us in His written Word that when we want His words and His direction, we go to rightly handled Scripture. Scripture is sufficient for all things pertaining to life and godliness.
Finally, where does Scripture say that if we “practice solitude” God will give us “peace”? It doesn’t. Our peace was purchased on the cross with Christ’s blood. He is our peace and peace is a fruit of the Spirit in us. But again, Jennie isn’t talking about biblical peace. She’s teaching you to idolize a feeling of peace.
Jennie tries to play the “Jesus card” in order to legitimize what she’s teaching:
And one of the things that Jesus did was practice solitude... Jesus gave us the example of solitude as a way to draw closer to God. In fact, there are at least 22 recorded instances of Jesus seeking solitude to be with His Father.
Where? Where is even one of those 22 recorded instances? Jennie provides no links, no Scripture references. Why? Because Jesus did not give us an example of solitude in Scripture the way Jennie defines it, and she knows it. The closest things Jesus did to “practicing solitude” that I can think of are in verses like…
Matthew 14:23a– “And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray.”
Mark 1:35- And rising very early in the morning, while it was still dark, he departed and went out to a desolate place, and there he prayed.
Luke 5:16- But he would withdraw to desolate places and pray.
Jesus didn’t seek solitude to “just be together with” God. He prayed.
Finally, there’s this recommendation. Richard Foster is the “founding father” of the Spiritual Formation movement.
And, as previously mentioned, in the article Learning By Heart, Melissa Emma quotes false teacher Dallas Willard on Spiritual Formation.
While DG doesn’t seem to overtly teach the use of the Enneagram or spend much time on it, it’s clear the Enneagram is part of the culture of DG.
In DG podcast episode 21: Ask Us Anything, the hosts take questions from DG followers, one of which is, “What are your Enneagram numbers?” (36:13). Amy and I have posted a number of episodes of A Word Fitly Spoken answering listeners’ questions, and one question we’ve never been asked is “What are your Enneagram numbers?” most likely because we’ve taught on several episodes that the Enneagram is unbiblical. Why would DG followers think this question would be welcomed? Because DG presents itself as an organization followers surmise would be Enneagram-friendly. And they’re right, it is.
In the episode, though the hosts clarify that our identity is in Christ, they say of the Enneagram, “We personally think that the Enneagram can be fun, it can be helpful in our relationships, and looking at the way we tend to react to things, and analyzing ourselves…”. They’ve both clearly taken the Enneagram test and are well-versed in the meanings of the numbers, because they each know their own numbers right off the bat and have guessed each other’s numbers.
One of my own followers contacted me to let me know that she had previously applied for a job at DG, and one of the questions on the application asked what her Enneagram number was.
“We are not experts. We are not black; we donโt know what it is like to be black in America,” they introduce one of the episodes by saying. That’s true. But they do have (currently) four other staffers who are black, who do know what it’s like to be black in America. It’s impossible to tell whether any or all of them worked at DG at the time these episodes were recorded, so one is left to wonder:
If any/all of them were employed by DG at the time of the recordings, why was a white woman chosen for the interview over a black staffer?
If none of them were employed by DG at the time of the recordings, that means DG was a very white company until fairly recently. It doesn’t speak well of their track record of diversity in hiring at all. Currently, there are only four black staffers pictured on DG’s Meet the Team page. Four. Out of 51. And only one is involved in content creation (at what seems to be the same level Aubrey was – staff writer).
But I’m getting a little ahead of myself. Back to the episodes. Neither episode is dated, but the latter (How Can We Respond…) sounds like it was recorded shortly after the deaths of Ahmaud Arbery (February 2020), Breonna Taylor (March 2020), and George Floyd (May 2020).
Both episodes seemed to go point by point through the woke playbook of the time:
The women never think to question whether or not the narrative they’re hearing from the world is true, but proceed to label the worldly definition of racism as “sin” anyway. “God is a God of justice, and one day He’ll set everything right.” Their assumption is that the injustice is being reported accurately (by lost people in the media, BLM, etc.), and is, indeed, actual injustice, and white people will get the justice they deserve.
They unquestioningly take for granted that the Arbery, Taylor, and Floyd incidents were all definitively instances of “racial injustice” with no other mitigating factors.
Clearly influenced by worldly ideas and worldviews from the likes of non-Christians such as Robin DiAngelo and Ibram X Kendi, they repeatedly remarked on white people’s supposedly inherent racism (“white fragility,” “white privilege,” “whiteness,” etc.) A few examples from the “How Can We Respond…? episode (my remarks are in parentheses following the quotes):
27:01- “…the implicit biases, and evil prejudices in all of our hearts should be exposed…”
22:37- “… doing justice, correcting oppression, pleading the cause of those who are silenced and unheard, these things are not optional for the Believer. They are a requirement.” (In the context in which the women are speaking, this is a mishandling of Scripture. Additionally, they are using God’s Word to beat white people over the head until their unbiblical feelings of guilt over this legalism prompt them to do what the worldly race agenda wants.)
22:18- “Black image bearers have been mistreated and devalued, and I have sinned against them and against God by remaining in the comfort of my own privilege through inaction.”
21:37- “We have to evaluate our own hearts.” (She then quotes Psalm 139:23-24, which is David’s plea for God to examine his heart, not for us to examine our own hearts, so… more mishandled Scripture, there.)…
…”I think that our tendency might be to defend ourselves and say, ‘But I’m not racist,’ find ways to justify ourselves, but we have to acknowledge that because of our fallen nature we all have prejudices and we will all struggle with racism to some degree… we need to recognize our own racism… He’s the one who can reveal those sinful patterns and tendencies that we might not even recognize in ourselves.” (So, either God, or we white people {notice, there’s no call for black people to examine their hearts for racism}, or both are to examine our hearts, but the only acceptable conclusion we’re allowed to reach after doing so is that we’re racists.)
20:22- “Be willing to listen to our black neighbors… we need to listen with humility, and not defensiveness. We need to listen with the assumption that we are the ones who have something to learn from this conversation.” (White people need to listen, not black people. White people need to learn, not black people. White people are the sinners when it comes to issues of race, not black people.)
11:00- “Our tendency may be to only want to hear from people who look like us when it comes to the Word of God …It is so important that we …are looking to hear people’s voices who are different from us… especially on the Word of God.” (This is a very unbiblical hermeneutic called standpoint epistemology. Basically, it says that we can’t truly understand what a passage of Scripture means until we hear what it means to black people, women, homosexuals, etc.)
1:44- “Pursuing racial reconciliation is part of our preparation for Heaven, right?” (Excuse me, but where does the Bible teach this?)
0:14- We want to be faithful to do this work of racial reconciliation because that is the ministry that we’ve been given, the ministry of reconciliation.” (This is a complete twisting of 2 Corinthians 5:18-20. We have not been given the ministry of reconciling the races -mainly lost people- to one another. We have been given the ministry of reconciling lost people to Christ.)
Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their transgressions against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. So then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as God is pleading through us. We beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
2 Corinthians 5:18-20
In the “Beauty of … Diversity in the Church” episode:
Churches are pressured to pursue diversity based on a popular mishandling of Revelation 7:9, essentially, that because “every nation, tribe, and tongue” will be gathered around the Throne in Heaven, churches have to make sure they look like this now. Only there’s no explanation of how to do this if, say, your church is smack in the middle of China and there are only Chinese people around. There’s also no expectation for black churches in America to pursue diversity by reaching out to white people.
Individuals are called to proactively pursue diversity in their own lives, perhaps by moving to a more diverse neighborhood, changing gyms, or joining a more diverse church. (Or maybe by finding a new job at a company that has more than four black employees out of 51. Of course, if white people flock to diverse organizations, won’t those organizations become more white and less diverse? Won’t that decrease the number of “black spaces”? It’s a pickle, I’ll tell ya.)
Overall, DG’s position on race seems to be in line with other organizations that have been labeled “wokevangelical” (such as The Gospel Coalition): they’ve adopted the secular worldview on race and racism and covered it with a thin veneer of Christiany-sounding legalism which they support with mishandled Scripture and misplaced white guilt.
“God told me.” “Sit quietly and listen for God to speak.” “Hearing God’s voice.” The unbiblical idea that God verbally and/or audibly talks to Christians today on the regular is completely unbiblical. God has already spoken. He speaks to us through His written Word, where He has made abundantly clear that Scripture is not only sufficient as we seek to follow Christ, it is actually better, preferable, and more reliable than supposed voices from the sky or in your head.
DG has a habit of appearing to align with the doctrine of biblical sufficiency while simultaneously teaching extra-biblical revelation. It’s slick enough (unintentionally, I’m sure) that you might miss it if you’re not paying attention.
In the second paragraph the author pays lip service to “[listening] to God’s (sic) as He speaks through Scripture” [from the context, the word “voice” seems to have been left out after “God’s”], but throughout the rest of the article, the “through Scripture” part is nowhere to be found and it’s easy to infer that she’s talking about extra-biblical revelation. For example:
…solitude allows you to hear the voice of God. However, it can be challenging to listen to the voice of God if you don’t practice Bible intake because it will be hard to decipher between your thoughts and God’s words.
If you’re “hearing the voice of God” through Scripture, this statement makes no sense. If you’re “practicing Bible intake” (this isn’t defined, so I can only surmise it means some form of reading, listening to, or being taught the Bible), there will be zero difficulty “deciphering between your thoughts and God’s words” because your thoughts are in your head and God’s words are on the page of Scripture in front of you. You cannot “listen to the voice of God through Scripture” if you’re not “practicing Bible intake”. She’s talking about extra-biblical revelation here.
But instead of spending time with God through studying the Scripture…solitude involves just being together with Him. And as we spend time with God in this way, He gives us His … words…
The author explicitly says we can receive “His words” by practicing solitude instead of studying Scripture.
And in this DG post, you’re again misled to believe that “solitude” is a biblical spiritual discipline and that, “When we take time away from people, distractions, and noise, we quiet our hearts to listen to Godโs voice.” If you’re supposedly “listening to God’s voice” by reading your Bible, a) why doesn’t this post say so, and b) why do you need to “practice solitude” to hear what God is saying in His written Word?
In DG podcast episode 87: Learning the Voice of God, the hosts repeatedly stressed that we need to read Scripture in order to learn the voice of God and God’s tone of voice instead of saying Scripture is the voice of God. It was very confusing, but after listening to the episode twice, I finally figured out why I was confused. “Learn the voice of God/God’s tone of voice” – which the hosts never clearly defined – may be cutesy little aesthetical phrases, but they are neither biblical terminology nor biblical concepts. The Bible never speaks of “learning the voice of God” or “God’s tone of voice”.
The Bible does not teach us that that we’re to learn what the voice of God “sounds like” by reading Scripture so that when He allegedly speaks to us outside of Scripture, or we hear one of the many “voices” of our culture or evangelicalism speaking to us, we’ll know whether or not it matches up with “God’s voice”.
When Paul, one of the many religious “voices” at the time, came to Berea and began to teach, the Bereans did not say to themselves, “Well, my goodness, we had better learn the voice of God so we’ll know whether or not that’s what we’re hearing through Paul.” No, what does the Bible say?The Bible says, in Acts 17:11, they were “examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so“. “Look it up,” not “learn God’s voice”.
Ironically, the hosts spoke for a bit about “learning God’s voice” for the purposes of discernment, so that we would recognize that false teachers and false doctrine are “not God’s voice”. But this doesn’t even seem to work for the hosts themselves (who recommend a Jen Wilkin resource in this same episode), Kristin Schmucker (and her aforementioned fawning over Beth Moore and other false teachers), Jeremy Schmucker (who loves him some IF:Gathering and sits under the teaching of women), and others who work at DG who promote the Enneagram, teach Spiritual Formation and worldly social justice, tout false teachers they love, and who have welcomed women “pastors” and women who preach to men onto the DG podcast.
Other Concerns
I want to preface this section by emphasizing the word “concerns”. I see some things in Kristin’s example to others (both employees at DG, and DG followers) that concern me. I am not saying that they are necessarily sin or false doctrine (unless otherwise stated below) because a) I don’t have enough detailed information to know, and/or b) there’s some degree of Christian liberty in some of these areas. It is possible that with more information it might become apparent that some of these issues are sin. It is equally possible that with more information my concerns would be completely allayed.
I do not take the legalistic position that no woman can ever work outside the home for any reason. I’ve written numerous times (here and here, for example) that there are seasons and circumstances in which it may be perfectly biblical for women to work outside the home. However, except in the direst of circumstances, the childrearing years are not one of those seasons or circumstances. A wife and mother’s primary responsibility, according to Scripture, is to focus on caring for her husband and children, and to manage her own household.
By her own admission in various interviews, Kristinโs children were little (I believe she has said โtoddlers,โ if Iโm not mistaken) when she started the company, and she and Jeremy still have five children at home.
Jeremy’s bio on the DG website reads: “In 2020 Jeremy and Kristin adopted two children from Costa Rica, completing their home with five children, ages 6-11.” That means in 2024, their oldest child is turning 15 and their youngest, 10. This year (2024) is DG’s tenth anniversary. Kristin has been at this for ten years.
Mom is CEO of this company. Dad is president. I donโt know any specifics about how many hours a week they work, but common sense would tell you those are not part time jobs. Typically, CEOs and presidents of companies that size put in more than a regular 40 hour week. It seems like a reasonable inference to observe that Kristin’s primary focus on a day to day basis is not on caring for her husband and children and managing her household, but on running her company.
(I’m not saying she doesn’t love her husband and children or questioning her relationship with them, I’m simply saying there are only 24 hours in a day, and it would seem that Kristin spends more of those hours on her business than on raising her children and managing her home.)
This might not be as concerning were it not for the fact that DG’s target audience is Christian young women, most of whom are of the age when they’re getting married and having children. They look up to Kristin – who is very publicly transparent about her work and her family – as an example of Christian womanhood. Instead of following Scripture’s admonition to be an older woman who teaches what is good: that younger women should be “workers at home” if at all possible, she teaches by her example that “what is good” is to exchange the primacy of caring for one’s husband and children, and managing one’s household, for managing a business.
And DG doesn’t just teach this by way of the example Kristin sets. It was also evident in DG podcast episode 252: Women and Work, which primarily focused on women working outside the home.
There was no discussion of Scripture, such as Titus 2:5, about the role of wives and mothers in the family. No discussion about whatโs best for kids or the family. No discussion about making sacrifices to stay home, because thatโs whatโs normative and ideal according to Scripture. Nothing other than a hat tip to โMaybe youโre a stay at home mom,โ in a list of all other kinds of work (i.e. “Maybe you’re a doctor, maybe you’re a teacher, maybe you’re a stay at home mom…”).
And itโs not surprising. DG was founded by and is made up of women who work outside the home and see this as some sort of divine โcallingโ. (There were several comments about working outside the home being a โcallingโ: โWe felt fully called.โ โwhat God calls us to,โ and so on. I inferred they were talking about a feeling or โGod verbally told me toโฆโ as calling. In other words, more extra-biblical revelation.)
Youโre not going to be encouraged as a stay at home mom or to become a stay at home mom by this company. Subtly or overtly, the message you’ll receive from DG is that it’s glamorous, exhilarating, and purposeful to discover what God is really “calling” you to do … instead of being a “keeper at home”.
Marriage, Complementarity, and Biblical Man/Womanhood
Kristin is the โCEO and Visionary forโ DG. โJeremy’s role as President [of DG] is to implement the vision of the CEO.โ
Kristin is the boss. Her husband works for her, carrying out her wishes and her directives. They spend the majority of their waking hours with her in charge. Think about that in light of what the Bible teaches about headship and submission in marriage, and about how that work dynamic would impact a marriage.
I listened to DG podcast episode 254: Women and Leadership, in which Kristin described starting the company, and I found a few of her remarks telling. She said that in Christian circles, โMen donโt always affirm your leadership. My husband has been my biggest cheerleader as Iโve led The Daily Grace Co for the past ten years.โ.
Although it is loving and in keeping with Scripture for a husband to support his wife in her biblical pursuits, Jeremy has, for the past ten years, cheered Kristin on as she…
prioritized building a business over building their home
became his boss
became the primary provider for their household
followed and partnered with false teachers, including women who preach to men
What would their example of marriage look like to the women who follow DG and look up to Kristin if Jeremy had pursued biblical headship in his home in these areas over the past ten years? How much more spiritually healthy would their marriage and family be?
This “woman in charge” dynamic has trickled down and permeated DG in general. Of the 51 employees pictured on the Meet the Team page of the website, only ten of them are men. There are eight people on the โcontent teamโ (these are the people who -I have to assume, because it doesnโt actually say- write the Bible studies, books, blog, and other content). Of those eight, zero are men. This is a female-run, and driven company.
That wouldnโt be as big of a deal if they produced content exclusively for women, but, as their FAQ page says, โOur men’s and women’s studies contain the same content, but the main difference is in design and photos.โ.
So you have women writing Bible studies for men. Technically, this doesnโt violate the letter of the law in Scripture, because the prohibition regarding women teaching men is in the context of the gathering of the church body, not authoring a book, but it certainly violates the spirit (which is why I have a note on the Bible studies page of my website asking men not to use my studies).
(Additionally, while Kristin, Jeremy, and the other two members of the executive team all have their degrees (but not which schools or seminaries) listed, there is zero information listed for the content creators besides their names. Who are these women? What is their theology? What sort of training or degrees do they have that qualify them to write Bible studies and theology books?)
Always Be Closing
The overall tone of DG’s website is that itโs a merch site with tons of stuff to sell. But while they sell a few Bibley accessories like t-shirts and stickers and coffee cups, most of what theyโre selling is content merch: Bible study books and leader kits, verse and prayer cards, magazines (two, quarterly), journals, โhandbooksโ (theology/Bible reference books), a membership to access their online Bible study groups, and so on.
You just feel like youโre being sold from the moment you arrive at the website. Itโs push, push, push. Product, product, product. And their product is Bible study. In fact, in a video promoting one of their theology books (Diving into the Theology Handbook, previously featured on the DG website), the woman promoting it calls it a โproductโ twice in the space of five minutes.
With this overwhelming โalways be closingโ mood of the website, I canโt help but be reminded of Jesus clearing the temple and rebuking the sellers to stop making it a house of merchandise. In fairness, DG is a business, not the temple or the church, but when the product theyโre packaging and pushing is the Bible, it sure feels similar.
The Sensuality of Frenetic Aesthetic
An equally over the top tenor of DG is its emphasis on aesthetic. You are just bombarded with this soft, feminine, “Christian girl Instagram influencer” vibe on every page of the website and in every product theyโre selling you. Mind you, thereโs nothing sinful about soft lit pictures of flowers and cups of coffee and whatnot, but if you’ve ever heard the old saying in advertising, โSell the sizzle, not the steak,โ you’ll have some idea of what I’m getting at. It feels like 95% of what you see is sizzle, and, yes, there’s a steak under there somewhere, but you don’t know a whole lot about it, and the sizzle is what captures most of your attention, anyway.
Emphasizing this point, on the home page of the DG website, you can find what appears to be the DG motto or mission statement: โThe Daily Grace Co. createsBeautiful, Theologically Rich & Accessible Resources that equip disciples to know and love God and His Word.โ Notice, they โcreateโ these resources. Itโs artistic creativity of beauty thatโs emphasized first. โBeautifulโ is the very first descriptor and it comes before โtheologically richโ.
In the aforementioned video selling the DG Theology Handbook (which looks like itโs supposed to be an introduction to systematic theology), the woman in the video flips through the pages which are saturated with beautiful Instagrammy images and infographics, and she makes a point of saying, and demonstrating, what a beautiful coffee table book it would make. I don’t think I’ve ever heard another theology book marketed that way.
So what’s the problem? God created beauty, didn’t He? Of course He did, but like everything else, beauty has to come under submission to biblical principle and function.
Amy and I have talked several times on A Word Fitly Spoken about women being drawn away from sound doctrine by sensuality. Not the sexual definition of that word, but the but the classical definition: โappealing to the sensesโ – your five senses of sight, hearing, taste, touch, and smell. “SENSE-uality”.
It’s exactly what Eve experienced in the Garden. Genesis 3:6 says:
So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ateโฆ
Eve saw that the tree was good for food and that it was a delight to the eyes. Thatโs visual sensuality. (And donโt let it escape your notice that this was Satanโs weapon of choice against a woman.) The sensuality of the experience captivated Eve. She was wooed by, and acted on her senses rather than objectively and dispassionately evaluating the reality of the situation, the content of what the serpent was saying, and how it conflicted with God’s clear command. We often fall into the same trap.
I’m pointing this out, not to compare DG to Satan, but to remind all of us not to let our passions and senses lead us. We need to think, discern, and make decisions rationally and objectively, based on the hard, cold facts, not the fancy window dressing.
There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with a beautiful aesthetic, just as there’s nothing wrong with a beautiful piece of fruit. But the truth of God’s Word comes first and reigns over all. Bible before beauty.
Financial Translucency
Something else I found troubling is the Daily Grace Foundation page. It tells you DG is financially supporting missionaries, Bible translation, and various discipleship orgs, but itโs very brief and doesnโt say specifically who or what theyโre financing. Thatโs not financial transparency. When you spend your money at DG, some of it is going to these undisclosed organizations you know nothing about. For all you know, these orgs could be run by or affiliated with false teachers, women โpastors,โ people who are woke, etc. Or they could be perfectly doctrinally sound. Who knows? That’s the point. You don’t know.
A Parachurch “Church”
A final concern about DG is something Amy and I have discussed on our podcast: parachurch Bible study with no pastoral oversight. Itโs not just that DG sells Bible study books and paraphernalia, they also have a daily Bible teaching podcast, and you can buy a monthly membership to their online community, The Daily Grace Collective, an online platform where you study the Bible โin communityโ. (The Bible study books theyโll be using, however, are, of course, sold separately.)
The community you study the Bible with is your church, not an online, unsupervised group of strangers. Listen to what DG’s page selling the Collective recently said (this has apparently been removed):
โDoes this sound like you? You deeply desire to grow in your love and knowledge of God and His Word. You want to be connected to a community that is serious about their faith and encouraging one another towards spiritual growthโฆThe Daily Grace Collective is a membership community with the goal of pursuing consistency, community, and spiritual growth together.โ
โa community that is serious about their faith and encouraging one another towards spiritual growthโ – thatโs church.
โa membership community with the goal of pursuing consistency, community, and spiritual growth together.โ – thatโs church.
The Daily Grace Co, a parachurch organization, has actually created a parachurch church. There is absolutely no biblical mandate or warrant for such a thing. If you want membership in a community, encouragement toward spiritual growth, and Bible study, go to church. Join a Bible study class your pastor and elders can oversee so they can make sure it stays doctrinally sound. Sit under the teaching of your doctrinally sound pastors, elders, and teachers. The church is Godโs plan.
One thing I heard in one of the DG podcast episodes above on racism, with which I wholeheartedly agree, is that “we should be after one another’s sanctification.” DG believes that confronting fellow Christians about things they say and do which are unbiblical is a good thing, and that when a fellow Christian lovingly confronts us in this way, we should “listen with humility, not in defensiveness,” consider what she has to say, be challenged by it, and repent. I hope Kristin, the whole DG team, and any DG fans who have had their feathers ruffled by this article, will practice this aspect of what DG preaches with regard to the things I’ve said here.
What’s the bottom line? I wouldnโt put The Daily Grace Co. on the level of a Benny Hinn or a Kenneth Copeland. Theyโre not wild-eyed heretics who will drag your soul off to Hell, but there are these several issues that, collectively, force me to say, โYou donโt need this. You can do better.โ
Ladies, quit picking through the pile of poo of popular womenโs Bible study hoping to find a diamond chip. Just study straight from your Bible and go to church. Thatโs where the real diamonds are, and thatโs all any of us really need.
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1There’s a bit of confusion these days in evangelicalism over some of the terms the spiritual formation movement uses. Spiritual Formation is an unbiblical system of mysticism led by people like Richard Foster and the late Dallas Willard. The term “Spiritual Formation” should not be used by doctrinally sound churches/Christians (as some do) as a trendy term for biblical discipleship or training in Christian character because it will be confused with the aforementioned system of mysticism.
Until the Spiritual Formation movement came along and co-opted it to include unbiblical practices (like solitude, as mentioned in the article above), spiritual disciplines was legitimate terminology for practices taught in Scripture that help us to grow in Christ: Bible reading, prayer, worship, Scripture memory, giving, serving the church, evangelism, etc. Many doctrinally sound churches and Christians still use this term correctly and it does not mean they’re into mysticism or Spiritual Formation. (One example is Don Whitney in his excellent and doctrinally sound book, Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life.) However, because it’s confusing to so many, churches may want to use a term like “the ordinary means of grace” or “biblical discipleship practices”.
2I realize I’m repetitiously citing some of these articles. I read multiple DG articles and listened to several DG podcast episodes, but these just happen to provide excellent examples of the points I’m making.