Celebrity Pastors, Discernment, False Teachers

Living Proof You Should Follow Beth (No) Moore

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Beth Moore is easily the world’s best known women’s Bible study author and teacher in the world. With her down home charm, endless energy, and stunning smile, she has captured the hearts of millions with her humor and storytelling style of teaching.

In forty years of ministry, Beth has written dozens of books. She also gives numerous Living Proof Live conferences every year and has a radio show and a television show on TBN, both called Living Proof with Beth Moore.

Beth truly seems to care about her followers and her passion about the issues of sexual abuse and racism have endeared her to many inside and outside the church.

As beloved and likable as she is, it would be so much easier and more pleasant to jump on the Beth Bandwagon than to have to warn against her as a false teacher. But as Christians, no matter how much we love a certain teacher, our highest love and loyalty must always be to Christ and His Word first, which means we must reject anything – even a beloved teacher – that is at odds with Him and the Scriptures. Beth Moore’s teaching and behavior conflicts with Scripture in several ways. For these reasons it is my sad duty to recommend that you not follow Beth Moore or receive any teaching from her or anyone connected to Living Proof Ministries.

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Beth Moore preaches to men

This is a video I chose at random (from the dozens of videos on YouTube featuring Beth Moore) which clearly shows men in the audience within the first 45 seconds. Beth Moore has, for quite a while, been teaching and preaching to men as well as women as you can see in this video. First Timothy 2:12 clearly forbids this.

For those who would defend her by saying, “She can’t help it if men come to her conferences,” or “Co-ed conference preaching isn’t ‘in the church’ so it’s OK,” Beth also preaches Sunday morning sermons to the entire congregation (including men) in churches (see also “preaching to men” link above). The screenshot below refers to Beth preaching the Mother’s Day Sunday morning service at the Tomball, Texas campus of her home church, Bayou City Fellowship, on May 12, 2019 (read more here).

Here (in a continuation of the preaching on Mother’s Day kerfuffle), Beth admits to having preached in multiple Southern Baptist worship services over her 40 year career (she has also preached in non-SBC churches) and seems to proudly defend her sin of doing so, while simultaneously boasting of her track record of obedience, by saying it only happened fifteen times.

It’s a bit confusing. Is Beth saying preaching to men is a sin and we should be grateful she only did it fifteen times? If so, this is not how we handle sin. We do not boast like the Pharisee about how few times we have sinned and how obedient we are, we grieve over even one sin, repent, and cry out with the publican, “God be merciful to me, a sinner!”. Also if Beth is saying it’s a sin, why is she defending the fact on Friday, May 10, that she is still planning to preach on Sunday, May 12? Why isn’t she instead confessing her plan to sin, humbly repenting, and announcing that she will not preach on Sunday?

If Beth is saying preaching to men is not a sin, why is she defending herself as only having done it fifteen times? Why didn’t she do it far more than only fifteen times over 40 years? Why not proudly enumerate all the times and places she has preached? Why have we not heretofore heard about these fifteen preaching events, as we hear about all her other speaking events, if it was OK for her to preach? Why didn’t she list the Mother’s Day event in question on her website alongside all her other speaking engagements? Why didn’t she talk it up on social media as she does with other speaking engagements? Why didn’t the church she’s speaking at excitedly advertise that she would be speaking as other venues do when she speaks?

Beth seems to know that preaching to men is a sin, but is trying to defend the fact that she does so.

2.
Beth Moore partners with,
and is being influenced by, false teachers

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Beth Moore tweeted this in December 2013. “Lakewood” is prosperity preacher Joel Osteen’s church. Christine Caine also preaches to men and hails from the leadership team of Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) church, Hillsong.

One need only peruse Beth’s Twitter feed to see other false teachers she allows herself to be influenced by: Matthew Vines, Rachel Held Evans, Christine Caine, Sarah Bessey, Andy Stanley, and more (including Jen Hatmaker and Jonathan Merritt – see An Open Letter to Beth Moore in #5 below).

Beth Moore speaking at Hillsong’s 2012 Colour Conference.

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Beth Moore has been a featured speaker at Hillsong‘s Colour Conference for women several times (2014, 2015), and at the 2017 Hillsong Conference which is co-ed. She even has her own page at the Hillsong website. She was also a featured speaker at the “Be the Change” conference with Christine Caine and Lisa Bevere in 2012.

In 2014, Beth began an ongoing partnership with Joyce Meyer, regularly appearing on her television show and serving as one of two main speakers (the other was Christine Caine) at Joyce’s 2016 women’s conference. See the “Additional Resources” section at the end of this article for other false teachers Beth joins with.

“We’re excited to have Beth Moore in the studio with us today taping upcoming shows of Enjoying Everyday Life.
We’ll keep you posted as soon as they are available
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In 2015, Beth launched her own show on TBN, which is sometimes jokingly called the “Total Blasphemy Network,” due to the fact that nearly all of their programs feature or are hosted by some of the worst of the worst false teachers, mostly those of the New Apostolic Reformation variety.

The pictures below were posted by head “pastor” of Hillsong, Brian Houston, on his Facebook page on March 8, 2019 after he interviewed Beth for his TBN television show “Let’s Talk, with Brian Houston”.

Brian Houston and Beth Moore

Laurie Crouch, Beth Moore, Matt Crouch (President of TBN), Brian Houston,
Victoria Osteen, Joel Osteen

On April 8, 2019, Beth appeared with Laurie Crouch (daughter-in-law of the late Paul and Jan Crouch) and Victoria Osteen on the TBN program, Praise.

Beth Moore, Victoria Osteen, Laurie Crouch

Scripture is quite clear that we are to have nothing to do with false teachers, especially when it comes to ministry.

Galatians 1:6-92 Corinthians 6:14-16, 11:3-4, 2 John 9-11, Romans 16:17-181 Corinthians 15:33, Proverbs 13:20

3.
Beth Moore claims to receive direct,
personal, extra-biblical revelation from God

Beloved, I am convinced one of our severest needs is pure rest. Not only sleep, but refreshment and recreation. Recently God spoke to me about capturing what He and I are calling “Sabbath moments.” Like many of yours, my schedule right now is particularly tough, and I see no time in 400000000000000263331_s4the near future for a number of days off. God spoke to my heart one Saturday morning while I was preparing for Sunday school: “My child, in between more intense rests, I want to teach you to take Sabbath moments.” I wasn’t certain what He meant. Just that morning God confirmed His desire for me to drive all the way to the other side of Houston to the medical center to visit a patient with brain cancer. I was very thankful for the privilege of visiting this patient, but I knew in advance it would be tough emotionally and far from restful.
Excerpted from Beth Moore’s The Beloved Disciple


What God began to say to me about five years ago, and I’m telling you it sent me on such a trek with Him, that my head is still whirling over it.th

He began to say to me, ”I’m gonna tell you something right now, Beth; and boy, you write this one down. And you say it as often as I give you utterance to say it: ‘My Bride is paralyzed by unbelief. My Bride is paralyzed by unbelief.’” And He said, “Startin’ with you.”
Excerpted from Beth Moore’s “Believing God” video

Pick up any Beth Moore book or watch any video of her teaching, and count how many times she says, “I think…” or “I believe…” or bases her teaching on a personal experience or story rather than teaching what God’s word clearly says.

2 Timothy 3:16-17, Romans 10:17, Hebrews 1:1-2

4.
Beth Moore refuses correction

In this video, Beth Moore pre-emptively strikes out at anyone who sees and hears what she will soon be teaching or doing and finds it to be in conflict with Scripture. Do you notice she does not quote or read a single passage of Scripture to back up what she is saying? Notice how many times she says “I believe…” This is all based on her own subjective ideations. You can find the transcript here if you would like to read it.

Instead of taking a step back and honestly evaluating where she is wrong on the biblical issues she has been called to account for, Beth Moore frequently doubles down as in this blog post striking out against people calling her a heretic or a false teacher for “disagreement” or “getting something wrong.” My comment to her (which I’m amazed they actually published):

Beth-

You’re absolutely right, a simple difference of opinion between two people doesn’t make someone a false teacher. And making a mistake or getting something wrong doesn’t make someone a false teacher either, if, when she is shown from Scripture that she is wrong, she repents and stops doing/teaching whatever she was wrong about.

That’s not what’s going on here.

You have been shown numerous times by numerous people that you mishandle and disobey God’s word (you preach to men in direct violation of 1 Timothy 2:12ff, you have unequally yoked yourself with false teachers in the prosperity gospel movement such as Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, and others, also in violation of Scripture, you twist and misapply God’s word, etc.) and yet you persist in doing so and continue to justify yourself and cast aspersions on brothers and sisters in Christ who call you to repent and conform to God’s word. THAT is what makes you a false teacher, not a simple mistake or disagreement.

You are not being called a false teacher because of man’s opinion, but because you rebel against God’s word and lead others to do the same. Please repent, obey God’s word, and teach sound doctrine. That is what the women who listen to you need.

At the end of this same blog post, in response to comments like mine calling her to repent for her false doctrine, Beth later wrote an addendum which further illustrates her inability to accept correction. The addendum included this odd statement, displaying either her confusion or ignorance about God’s word and His authority:

“Nothing equates with the Scriptures: no word of knowledge, no prophetic message, no insight, no revelation, no dream, no vision. Nothing. That doesn’t mean they can’t be valid. The New Testament says they can. But they must never supplant or be placed on the same level with the Scriptures.”

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. First of all, where – in context and rightly handled – does the New Testament say this? It can’t. All of the dreams, visions, prophecies, etc. in the Bible from God to His people became Scripture once they were written down, and we know that all Scripture is breathed out by God. Know what that means? God Himself equates all of these types of revelation with Scripture.

When God speaks, God speaks. He doesn’t speak authoritatively in Scripture and non-authoritatively or less authoritatively outside of Scripture. Doing so would make Him imperfect and, thus, not God. People who claim to receive “words of knowledge, prophetic messages, insights, revelations, dreams, and visions” claim that these extra-biblical revelations are God speaking to them. If this is true, and this really is God speaking, then His spoken word to them is“on the same level as Scripture”. (And I won’t even go into the instances in which these folks, including Beth Moore, have said God has told them something that conflicts with Scripture or that God told them something was going to happen and it didn’t. I guess God just gets it wrong sometimes?) If it is not true and it really isn’t God speaking to them then why are we listening to them and why are they saying that their own ideas and imaginings are God speaking to them?

Proverbs 18:2, Ecclesiastes 7:5, Galatians 2:11-14

5.
Beth Moore is heading toward affirming homosexuality

In the summer of 2019, five women bloggers and Bible teachers and I, published An Open Letter to Beth Moore. It was subsequently signed by nearly 500 additional Christian women. The letter was merely a request for clarification of Beth’s views on homosexuality since she maintains public, adulatory friendships with well known homosexuality-affirming evangelicals such as Jen Hatmaker and Jonathan Merritt, and since she has been virtually silent on the issue of homosexuality in recent years while not hesitating to speak out on other heinous sins.

For two and a half weeks, Beth ignored the letter, slandered the signers of the letter, and refused to make her position on homosexuality clear in any venue. It was then discovered that Beth had biblically addressed the sin of homosexuality in her book Praying God’s Word, but had later removed this section from the book because she felt she had “exceeded Scripture”. Finally, Beth wrote a blog post explaining why she had removed this passage and making a biblical statement on human sexuality, yet still not declaring homosexuality to be a sin. (You can read more about this series of events in my articles Questions about the Open Letter to Beth Moore and An Open Letter to Beth Moore – Timeline of Events.)

A few weeks after Beth’s blog post, Beth admitted she has been looking into the arena of same sex attracted (SSA) Christianity on her LifeWay-sponsored TBN television show, in an episode entitled Staying Afloat on the Fellow Ship – Part 4. 

Though Beth’s words may not sound problematic to some, Elizabeth Prata explains in her article Listen carefully to what she is saying in this video…, exactly why Beth’s remarks signal her trajectory toward acceptance of homosexuality:

In her latest lesson video on unity and fellowship, Moore used many phrases and code words that indicate her stance toward same sex attraction, homosexuality, and their attendant issues, is aligned with the aforementioned folks she was supposed to be ministering to in love by warning against these very things.

Moore makes it sound as if homosexuals are doing Jesus a favor by choosing celibacy. Homosexually attracted people are no different in their sin than…any other flavor of sexual sin…touting their “tremendous sacrifice” makes it seem as if they are.

I believe this video and Moore’s recent handling of the homosexuality issue means Moore seems to be readying herself to ‘come out’ as it were, of affirming homosexuals in some way as believers.

 

These are five theological areas in which Beth Moore behaves and speaks in ways that mishandle God’s word or otherwise conflict with the Bible. Below are some additional specific evidences of her false teaching and disobedience to Scripture.

Additional Resources:

My articles and resources:

After Thought Podcast Guest Appearance Part 1, Part 2: The Open Letter to Beth Moore

The Rapp Report Podcast Guest Appearance: The Open Letter to Beth Moore and Complementarianism

Theology. Driven. Podcast Guest Appearance: Beth Moore, the SBC, and Christian Women

The Mailbag: What did you think of Beth Moore’s “A Letter to My Brothers”?

The Mother of All Rebellions: Having a Woman Preach on Mother’s Day


Articles and resources from others:

Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. I do not endorse any of these sites in so far as any of them might deviate from Scripture or conflict with my beliefs as outlined in the “Welcome” or “Statement of Faith” tabs at the top of this page.

Overviews/Series – Multiple Theological Problems with Beth Moore:

Critiques of Beth Moore (long version) by Elizabeth Prata

Critiques of Beth Moore (newest) by Elizabeth Prata

Articles on Beth Moore by Elizabeth Prata

Why Your Pastor Should Say “No More” to Beth Moore and Why the SBC Should Say “No More” to Beth Moore by Josh Buice

The Beth Moore Cornucopia of False Doctrine, Mysticism, and Impassioned Frenzy by Steven Kozar

Beth Moore at Fighting for the Faith

The Fundamental Problem of Beth Moore at Voice of Reason Radio

Preaching to Men:

Beth preaches the Sunday morning sermon at Transformation Church, June 2019 (see Chris Rosebrough’s brief critique of this sermon here)

Beth Moore vs. Owen Strahan at WWUTT Podcast
(Related links):
Michelle Lesley’s Twitter thread on Beth’s Sunday sermon preaching
Beth Moore’s Twitter response to Midwestern Seminary professor Owen
Strahan’s article on biblical complementarianism

The Mother of All Rebellions: Having a Woman Preach on Mother’s Day

Beth Moore Goes off Like a Bottle Rocket by Gabe Hughes

Beth Moore, Do You Have Your Own Rule Book? by Cody Libolt

How Beth Moore Is Calling Down Pentecostal Fire at Charisma (Please note, this is an article praising Beth for doing unbiblical things and is provided only for evidence of such. Charisma promotes all sorts of false doctrine, and I definitely do not recommend or endorse it.)

Beth Moore preaches the Sunday sermon at Bayou City Fellowship Church

Beth Moore preaches the Sunday sermon at Louie Giglio’s Passion City Church

Beth Moore preaches the Sunday sermon at Progressive Baptist Church, Chicago

Partnering with False Teachers

Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer, and Christine Caine Q&A after Joyce Meyer’s 2016 Love Life Conference

Beth Moore’s new television show on (Word of Faith) TBN (Sponsored by LifeWay)

Andy Stanley Weighs in on Beth Moore at Wretched

Unbiblical Teaching and Misuse of Scripture/Book Reviews

Beth Moore’s ‘Sabbath Moment’ Playdate with God by Do Not Be Surprised

Beth Moore – False Teacher at The King’s Dale

Beth Moore by CARM.org

“Breaking Free” from Beth Moore and Her “Try Hard” Theology by Lisa Nunley at Sola Sisters

Theology…More or Less With Beth by Sarah Flashing at Midwest Christian Outreach

What Happens When We See Beth Moore Teach the Bible- Podcast and Resources by Equipping Eve

Justin Peters and Brannon Howse on Beth Moore (The actual title of this video is a bit misleading. It is mostly about Beth’s ecumenism/false teaching. Joyce Meyer is not mentioned until the last 1-2 minutes of the video.)

Biblical reviews of Beth Moore simulcasts and other materials by Chapter 3 Ministries

Why We (Still) Warn Against Beth Moore at Things Above Us

Book Reviews:

So Long, Insecurity: You’ve Been a Bad Friend to Us by Beth Moore at The King’s Dale

Breaking Free: Discover the Victory of Total Surrender at The King’s Dale

Beth Moore’s “Breaking Free” at The Watchman’s Bagpipes

Jesus the One and Only at The King’s Dale

Praying God’s Word: Breaking Free from Spiritual Strongholds at The King’s Dale

Beth Moore- A review of “Stepping Up” at …Say What?


The (Rotten) Fruit of Beth Moore’s Ministry

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
Matthew 7:15-20

Beth’s followers and supporters are the fruit of her ministry. Are they good fruit or bad fruit? Is she a healthy tree or a diseased tree? Would a godly, doctrinally sound teacher have multiple followers who are homosexuals and homosexuality-affirming? Who rebel against the Bible’s teaching on gender roles? Who blithely blaspheme, spew profanity, and threaten Believers who object to Beth’s sins and false teaching? Who slander and make false accusations against Believers, and display every opposite of the Fruit of the Spirit?

An Open Letter to Beth Moore – Timeline of Events (Scroll down toward to the end of the “Saturday, July 6” section for comments from Beth’s homosexual and homosexuality-affirming followers.)

Twitter thread showing many ungodly comments from Beth’s followers


Better is open rebuke than hidden love.
Proverbs 27:5

 

38 thoughts on “Living Proof You Should Follow Beth (No) Moore”

  1. Thank you for sharing this, Michelle. I have been concerned about the popularity of Beth Moore for a while now but it is so hard to say something because she is so well-liked. Also, the teaching men is not a big deal to a lot of people because of their egalitarian views, so that is not enough for sounding the alarm (in my opinion – though I agree that women should not teach men in a church setting). But the other issues and now her associating with Joyce Meyer – the direct revelation claims – she is dangerously moving away from Scripture and because she is so popular, people don’t see it. Thank you for this article. I am going to share it and wait for the stones to come flying at me :-).

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    1. Thank you, Twiga. I get what you’re saying about egalitarians, but just to throw a couple of things out there that might be a little food for thought for them (especially if they’re reading this):

      1. I try to keep abreast of current trends and teachers in women’s ministry, and I don’t know of a single female teacher/pastor out there who teaches men who is not also off in some other aspect of her theology. Most of the currently popular ones who insist on teaching men are also in the Word of Faith movement.

      2. If you take a look at churches who are now liberal or progressive (the ones who embrace homosexuality among other things) and trace things back, you’ll find that, almost without exception, their apostasy started when they abandoned the Bible’s teaching on the biblical roles for men and women.

      Thanks for sharing this around. Here’s hoping the stones won’t be too big! :0)

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  2. yeah, I’m getting pummeled on Facebook – someone actually unfriended me. sigh.. people don’t want to see the truth, they’re blinded by personality or whatever else. so defensive over another person – would they be that defensive over Christ being defamed?

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    1. Oh dear. I’m so sorry you are going through that. It’s hard to believe people who call themselves CHRISTians have a greater loyalty to a person than to Christ. Maybe they should start calling themselves Mooreians.

      When that kind of thing happens to me, I always think, “It could be worse. I could be Jeremiah.” :0)

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      1. When I read your article the thought ran through my head, “That’s how cults get started.” Sigh. Sometimes success is harder to handle than “failure” for Christians.

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  3. Get over yourself,honey! Beth Moore teaches to men because their wives take them with them to her conferences as a couple. That is like saying women don’t belong in Church .

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    1. Really, Bethany, you can do better than that. Put your big girl panties on and argue like a Christian WOMAN, not a little girl. Get your Bible out, do some serious study, and bring me back a BIBLICAL argument. I can even point you to some helpful Scriptures if you like. Come on, I believe you can do this.

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      1. Romans 16:1-2 says, “I recommend to YOU Phoe′be our sister, who is a minister of the congregation that is in Cen′chre‧ae, that YOU may welcome her in [the] Lord in a way worthy of the holy ones, and that YOU may assist her in any matter where she may need YOU, for she herself also proved to be a defender of many, yes, of me myself.”

        Acts 18:26: And this [man] started to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him into their company and expounded the way of God more correctly to him.

        Female ministers (preachers) do not have the authority to act as shepherds or teachers in the same manner as men though. Women and men are given the privilege to preach the good news of the Kingdom of God to their neighbors and teach Bible truths to all.

        Psalm 68:11, “Jehovah himself gives the saying, The women telling the good news are a large army.”

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      2. Bethany-

        I’m so glad you came back! Let’s take a look at the verses you’ve cited.

        1. Romans 16:1-2- I’m guessing the word you’re focusing on here is “minister.” While we sometimes use the word “minister” in English as a synonym for pastor or preacher, that’s not the case in this particular verse (It’s actually not even always the case in English, either. For example, we have people with the title: minister of music, minister of education, children’s minister, Prime Minister, etc., and we would not consider these people to be preachers.)

        I’m not sure which translation you were using, but I looked up this passage in four of the most accurate translations out there (ESV, NASB, HCSB, and KJV) and they all rendered the clearer translation of “servant.” I also looked it up in the Greek, and this word means “to run errands, an attendant, waiter at table or other menial duties.” The commentary (MacArthur) I read on this verse says this would have been a woman who “cared for the sick, poor, strangers, and prisoners.”

        So, Phoebe actually supports what the rest of Bible says about the role of women in the church. There’s no indication from the context of the passage or from the word translated “servant” or “minister” that she ever preached to, instructed, or held authority over men in the church.

        Now, I have a question for you about Phoebe. This passage about her is in Romans, which Paul wrote, right? Paul also wrote 1 Timothy 2:12 where he says, “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man.” So, knowing that Paul was not shy about rebuking people who weren’t doing church properly, do you think he would have personally praised Phoebe so highly if she were rebelling against the role laid down for her in Scripture, which Paul himself penned? Quite the contrary, I think. I think it was BECAUSE she was doing such a great job of biblically fulfilling her role as a woman that Paul had such high praise for her. This passage also underscores the vital role women play in the church while obeying Scripture’s parameters for them.

        2. Acts 18:26- Again, this really supports the rest of what the Bible says about the biblical role of women in the church. First of all, this did not occur in a church setting or in public. It was a private meeting, likely in Aquila’s and Priscilla’s home over dinner or something, with only the three of them present. Priscilla did not hold the office of pastor or teacher (of men) in the church, nor was she exercising authority over men in the church in any other way. When this meeting with Apollos took place, she was under the authority of her husband, assisting him. My husband and I have done things like this a few times, ourselves. He takes the lead, and I supplement in a respectful way if the need arises. I’m there as a helper, not as the authority, as was almost certainly the case with Priscilla.

        In Romans 16:3, Paul calls Priscilla and Aquila “my co-workers in Christ Jesus.” So I would ask again, would Paul be a “co-worker” with a woman who was rebelling against God’s directives on the role of women in the church (1 Timothy 2:12)? Would he be a “co-worker” with a man who couldn’t manage his family properly (1 Timothy 3:4-5) as evidenced by his wife being in blatant rebellion against Scripture and his unwillingness to do anything about it? I don’t think so.

        3. Psalm 68:11- This one has absolutely nothing to do with a woman’s role in the church. The church wasn’t even in existence when the Psalms were written. If you’ll read the verse in context, you’ll see that the “good news” the women were proclaiming was not the good news of the gospel, but the good news of a military victory. Their exact words are quoted (notice the quotation marks) in verse 12: “The kings of the armies—they flee, they flee!” That’s not preaching, instructing men in the Bible, or holding authority over men in the church. It’s similar to what we see in 1 Samuel 18:6-7:

        As they were coming home, when David returned from striking down the Philistine, the women came out of all the cities of Israel, singing and dancing, to meet King Saul, with tambourines, with songs of joy, and with musical instruments. 7 And the women sang to one another as they celebrated,

        “Saul has struck down his thousands,
        and David his ten thousands.”

        If I correctly understand what you’re saying in your other paragraph about women sharing the gospel, I agree with you! Women not only have the privilege of sharing the gospel, we are commanded to by Scripture. If a situation presents itself in which a lost man needs to hear the gospel and a woman is the only one around at that moment to explain it to him, that’s perfectly within the bounds of Scripture. It’s not in a church setting, she’s not assuming the office of teacher or preacher, and she’s not exercising authority over him. I would only have two pieces of counsel for a woman when it comes to witnessing situations like that.

        First, there are so many women out there who are lost and/or being deceived by false teachers like Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine, etc., that I believe our first duty as Christian women should be to other women, and whenever possible, let the men handle the men. We have our hands full rescuing our sisters from an eternity in hell.

        Second, an ongoing, one on one situation with a woman sharing the gospel with a man (not a “one and done” kind of thing, like when you share the gospel with a stranger on a plane or something, but continuing to meet with a man) is unwise (1 Corinthians 10:23). He could be playing her just to take advantage of her. Or he could be genuinely seeking the Lord, and an emotional involvement could start. If a situation arises where more than one conversation is necessary to discuss the gospel, it would be best to bring along her husband, brother, friend, etc., or hand him off to her pastor or another trusted man in the church. That’s for the protection of both the man and the woman.

        Finally, I have one more set of questions for you:

        1. If it’s OK for women to be preachers, or instruct men in the Scriptures, or hold authority over men in the church, why did Paul say it wasn’t in 1 Timothy 2:12?

        2. Step back and take a look at the big picture of the Bible. When God created man and woman (Genesis 2:18ff), to whom did He give headship? The man. When God talks about marriage in Ephesians 5:22ff, who is the head? The man. When Christ talks about His relationship to the church, calling Himself the bridegroom and the church the bride (Revelation 21:9), who is the head? Christ, who is the God-MAN.

        Now, seeing that across the breadth of Scripture and in the three most important institutions of Scripture: Creation, the family, and the church, God has instituted MALE headship, would it make any sense whatsoever, for God to then turn around and say that despite all that foundation, it’s OK for women to take headship roles in the church (especially when passages like 1 Timothy 2:12ff clearly say otherwise)?

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      3. So basically what you are saying is we should all be Amish and separate the men from the women in church and tell the women to keep their mouths shut? Which also means you shouldn’t even have this blog because it sure sounds like you are “preaching” that women should have no place in the church and that the church is for men and children.

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      4. Come on, Bethany, that’s weak. Either you didn’t read what I wrote or you have a serious reading comprehension problem or you’re being intentionally obtuse. I never said anything of the sort. In fact, I said the opposite of some of those things.

        With regard to my blog, it’s possible you’ve missed the articles in which I’ve stated that this is a blog for Christian women. If men want to read what I write to and for women, they’re welcome to do so. As with the many examples I addressed in my previous comment, this blog isn’t the church setting, and I am not preaching to or instructing men or holding authority over men.

        Bethany, you’ve got to start studying your Bible and learn how to properly defend the faith. (Apologetics– there’s something else women are permitted and commanded to do. Jude 3) If I can deflate your “arguments” so easily, what are you going to do when you come up against an atheist who knows the Bible better than you do?

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    1. Hi Jaime-

      I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into your previous comment. I did moderate it and decided not to post it per the comment parameters outlined in the “Welcome” tab. It is extremely long and contains a number of biblical/theological issues which need to be addressed and/or corrected, and I’m afraid I simply don’t have the time at the moment. Again, thanks for taking the time to read and comment.

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  4. I’m sure she’d be a wonderful teacher if she would just follow God’s word! But listening to her talk wears me out. My mind wanders and I can’t quite figure out what it is she’s saying. I can’t keep focused. I’m not looking for more feel good opinions. I want the meat of God’s word. And she’s not bringin it. Preaching to men is not biblical!!

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  5. What if a man reads your article? Or follows your blog, are YOU in violation of 1Tim 2:12? A sincere question. And another, what if a husband wants to know what his wife is learning, is he allowed to listen in on beth moores teaching? Or would that mean both he and beth have sinned?

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  6. You mentioned that Beth Moore has said plenty of things that contradict scripture but that you didn’t feel the need to go into them. This is a pretty serious charge, so it seems to me like it would be necessary that you go into them so that we can make an informed decision. You seem to suggest that God no longer speaks to people, which I completely disagree with. But it should always be tested against scripture, always. See https://gotquestions.org/God-still-speak.html. I have a lot of respect for Mrs. Moore, but I am a truth seeker as well. Examples of her making claims that contradict scripture would seal it for me. If you could please also provide sources, I would appreciate it. Thank you.

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    1. Hi Julie-

      What I actually said was, “And I won’t even go into the instances in which these folks, including Beth Moore, have said God has told them something that conflicts with Scripture…” Just to cite one example of this, any time she has said God called or allowed (or whatever word she wants to use) her to preach to men or has stood in front of an audience containing men and said “God told me to tell you…” she is saying that God has approved of, said, or given her some special dispensation to do something that conflicts with His word. You will find other examples in the articles in the Additional Resources section.

      But let’s put continuationism aside for a minute. Let’s say that you’re right and God is speaking audibly to her and you and I agree on that. What about the fact that she disobeys Scripture by teaching false doctrine, by preaching to men, and by yoking to false teachers? That’s not enough disobedience to God for you to stop following her? That’s way more than enough by God’s standard.

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  7. Hi, I have been doing some reading about these false teachers (Moore, Caine, Shirer) and I must say that I am discouraged. Are there any good teachers out there that we can trust? Women who speak to women that we can wholeheartedly follow?

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    1. It is pretty discouraging, isn’t it? The good news is that there are lots of doctrinally sound women out there, it’s just that you’ve probably never heard of them because the false teachers are the ones who get to be celebrities. I like to encourage women to primarily follow the older, godly women in their own churches- they are such a blessing and can teach us so much on a more personal level. But as for leisure time internet reading and such, you’ll find some great women under the “Recommended Bible Teachers” tab at the top of this page. (And don’t limit yourself to women. There are tons of great male teachers out there too! :0)

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