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Thank you for this biblical truth: “Jesus taught us to…love our enemies, do good to those who hate us, bless those who curse us, pray for people who abuse us, turn the other cheek, give to those who want to take from us, treat others the way we want to be treated”. Are boundaries biblical then? Do we stick around when someone is pouring out non-stop criticism and verbally abusing us or talking behind our back? Family members can be the worst. People who are not following Jesus and who are consumed with darkness, hate people who are walking in the Light. I understand not taking offense, but in my experience, when I turn the other cheek to abusers, they keep abusing and hate you more. It is not good to allow them to sin against us because when their sin flows freely, it not only harms me but it harms them too. Thoughts?
Great question! It’s one Amy Spreeman and I have received numerous times over the past few years, so we’ve recorded a podcast mini-series on it!
Beautiful Biblical Boundaries- part 1 deals with the Scriptures and biblical precepts addressing boundaries. We discuss how and when to erect boundaries (and how and when not to). This episode is currently scheduled to drop next Wednesday, November 12.
In Beautiful Biblical Boundaries- part 2, we’ll answer listeners’ questions about boundaries in their own lives and relationships. This episode is currently scheduled to drop in about two weeks, onWednesday, November 19.
Please note that the links above will not work until the dates specified.
This article pertains to normal, relatively healthy, Christian marriages. In other words, not abusive marriages. If you are being abused, get yourself and your children to a safe place, and call the police, your pastor, or a loved one for help.
Of course, I agree that we should be subject to our husbands. However, are we not to call them out gently on their sin when they are acting like “an ungodly jerk” according to various verses such as Proverbs 27:5, Luke 17:3, Matthew 18:15, and Galatians 6:1? I guess I’m just confused because both commands seem to contradict each other.
This is another super question! The short answer is, “Yes,” but as Ecclesiastes 3:1,7 tells us, “there is a time for every matter under heaven…a time to be silent and a time to speak,” and in the moment when your husband is acting like “an ungodly jerk,” he’s apt to respond poorly to his sin being exposed and corrected, which just compounds his sin. (And frankly, we wives usually respond just as poorly in that moment when the shoe is on the other foot.)
In that moment, generally speaking, it’s usually a time to be silent, and, assuming he’s not asking you to sin, do whatever it is he’s gruffly or impatiently asking you to do with a gracious, kind, willing, and loving attitude and demeanor, as opposed to pouting and feeling sorry for yourself – which is the theme of the article (and also why #7 focuses on the “a time to keep silent” aspect of submission rather than the “a time to speak” aspect of addressing your husband’s sin).
Have you ever heard the phrase “killing someone with kindness”? God has an amazing way of taking our example of godly obedience, kindness, and refusing to retaliate, and using that to convict the other person of his sin. He does that Himself with us:
Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
What makes you confident in your ability to determine who is a true or false teacher of the Bible? Are you a theologian or do you have background in studying theology and the Bible? Just curious.
(I’ve distilled this question down from a much longer laundry list of complaints from a follower about a Facebook post in which I warned against false teacher Priscilla Shirer. It’s hard to tell from the wording in the brief excerpt above, but this was not a genuine, good faith question from someone desiring to grow in her discernment skills. It was tossed out in a snarky, accusatory, “Who do you think you are?” tone. My tone below, per Proverbs 26:5, is a biblically appropriate response to hers.)
The Bible makes me confident in my ability to determine who is a true or false teacher of the Bible. And if you’re a genuinely regenerated Christian, it should make you confident too.
Our authority as Christians comes from God’s Word, not from a seminary. You don’t have to go to seminary to be a discerning Christian (in fact, many seminaries are so rife with false doctrine that you’d better be discerning before you get there). If you think about it, none of the people who wrote the Bible’s teachings on false teachers and false prophets ever went to seminary, including the Bereans, whom God praised for their discernment.
Scripture tells us:
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1
Examining teachers and comparing their teaching and behavior with Scripture is a command from God for Christians, not an option, and certainly not something for Christians to criticize and scorn other Christians for doing (as long as they’re doing it biblically, which I am).
So the question here is not why am I obeying God’s Word, testing this spirit against Scripture, and when she’s found to be a false teacher, warning other Christians about her. The question is, if you’re a Christian, why aren’t you? Why aren’t you studying your Bible so that you understand it, and can see how Shirer’s words and actions conflict with it? Why aren’t you warning others against her? I would be very concerned about that for my own spiritual life if I were you.
I hope this resource will answer any other objections to the Bible’s command for discernment that you may have.
I later added these remarks (slightly edited here) to the remainder of the commenters on that post:
I would encourage you younger ladies (especially those who have been commenting in the “Where do you get off?!?!” vein to me) to consider this:
“When one becomes so familiar with His Word you can spot a false teacher a mile away – I told my girls that when you walk close to God and His WORD you become sensitive to the clanging gong of false teachers.”
This quote is from a 70+ year old “Titus 2:3-5 woman” who has been walking with the Lord and a passionate student of God’s Word for over 50 years. And she’s right. And as a younger woman (I’m 56), I’m very thankful for the wisdom she just spoke into my life.
As I said, I’m 56. I have been a faithful member of decent churches since 9 months before I was born. I’ve been saved since I was 12. That means I’ve been walking with the Lord and studying His Word at church, a Christian high school and college, in other Christian organizations, and on my own for 44 years. Longer than many of you have been alive. Furthermore, I’ve been blogging and “doing discernment ministry” for over 17 years.
If you had a doctor with 44 years of training and 17 years of diagnostic experience and he gave you a diagnosis you didn’t like, would you immediately throw it back in his face with a sassy, disrespectful, “What qualifies YOU to say so?” or “What makes you so sure you’re right? MY opinion is…”. I doubt it. You might respectfully ask him some questions or request some resources to help you understand. You might even politely seek a second or third opinion, but you would not be so brash and arrogant to immediately assume he has no idea what he’s talking about and is just being mean to you, and you know better than he does.
I’m not saying this to toot my own horn or “look down on anyone’s youth” (that would be out of context, anyway), and I’m certainly not saying I’m without sin or never make mistakes. I’m saying there’s a reasonTitus 2:3-5 specifies that older women are to train younger women. (Which implies that younger women should listen to older women instead of immediately dismissing us out of hand when we say something you don’t like – especially when it’s backed up with rightly handled Scripture and other mature, doctrinally sound Christians corroborate it.) Younger women do not have the same spiritual maturity, life experience, wisdom, and biblical training that older women have who have been walking with the Lord for decades. (I definitely didn’t have it when I was a younger woman!)
By all means, get a second opinion from rightly handled, in context Scripture. Politely ask questions. Do the research on your own. But stop being so reactionary and lashing out every time you hear something biblical that you don’t like. All you’re doing is showcasing your spiritual immaturity and ignorance of Scripture and your lack of self control. Or, worst case scenario, you’re bearing the fruit of someone who isn’t saved.
I’m far from perfect, but I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck and start slinging the label of “false teacher” around willy nilly. By God’s incredible grace, mercy, wisdom, and sanctification, I’ve been doing this a long time, and I know what I’m talking about – all glory to Him.
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Would you say offending with the purpose to offend with the truth is the same as what you are saying? So should we ever purpose to offend when we speak the truth from the Bible?
Great question! (And let me take this opportunity to say to all of my readers and followers that if you’re ever unclear about something I’ve written or posted – especially if it seems unbiblical or out of character for me – please, please, please just ask me about it politely, like this reader did, and I will be happy to explain if I’m able. I would much rather you ask than attack me, jump to the wrong conclusion, or worse, assume I’ve apostatized. Genuine, polite questions are always welcome!)
Hon, when you say “purpose to offend,” I’m thinking of a person who gets out of bed in the morning with the primarygoal of offending people, making them angry, or upsetting them, not with the primarygoal of sharing the gospel or restoring someone from sin.
I’m not sure why a Christian would have the desire, goal, or motive of offending people, regardless of his reason for doing so. That goes against the grain of everything Scripture teaches us both about Christian character and the ineffectiveness of provoking people. The Bible says:
A brother offended is harder to win over than a strong city, And contentions are like the bars of a citadel. …if possible, so far as it depends on you, being at peace with all men…
Proverbs 18:19, Romans 12:18
Fathers are told not to provoke their children to anger. One of the qualifications for pastors and elders (which we’re to emulate) is that they not be pugnacious (i.e. “looking for a fight”), but peaceable and considerate. (If not, they’re disqualified from ministry.) We’re not to place a stumbling block or offense before anyone – saved or lost, in order to protect our ministry and so that people might be saved. You’ll recall that Paul devotes significant ink to the idea that if it would offend people for him to eat meat sacrificed to idols, he’ll never eat meat again. We’re told not to be quarrelsome, but kind, patient, and gentle in our teaching and correction so that people can be saved. Titus 3:2 reminds us “to slander no one, but to be peaceable, considerate, demonstrating all gentleness to all men”.
The Scriptures go on and on about this. We’re not only forbidden from trying to offend people, we’re instructed to bend over backwards trying not to offend people. The Bible is offensive enough all on its own. That’s more than enough offense for sinners to try to deal with without us making things harder and piling on personal offensiveness.
And that’s the whole point of my article. Not that we should intentionally be personally offensive in our demeanor, but that we shouldn’t refrain from kindly, yet firmly speaking the truth in love so that sinners might be saved, and saints might be sanctified, just because we’re afraid that biblical truth will offend them.
I drop in on the RNM website from time to time, and from what I can see, it’s almost all (if not all) false teachers.
Scripture is clear that churches shouldn’t support (financially or otherwise) false teachers, and certainly not those, like RNM, who profit from platforming them and spreading their false doctrine. In fact, if your pastor welcomes false teachers into the church – in person, through their books and materials, via video platforms like RNM, etc. – instead of rebuking them and their false doctrine, he is participating in their wickedness, he is disqualified from pastoral ministry, and he needs to be under church discipline.
Yeah, it’s that serious to God.
And from a stewardship point of view, even if there are a few doctrinally sound teachers sprinkled in at RNM, I don’t see how it could possibly be worth the monthly subscription price for whatever few good teachers they might* carry.
*Visiting the RNM site, I get the impression that they want your money before they give you access to the names of all the teachers they platform. I clicked on several pages, and the teachers they did disclose fell into two categories for me: people I know to be false teachers, and people I’ve never heard of. I didn’t see the name of anyone I know to be a doctrinally sound teacher.
Since it’s a subscription service, not a “pay for the specific video you’re using” kind of thing, there isn’t even the option for pastors to say something like, “We feel like this particular R.C. Sproul video is the best one available on the theology of shoelaces, but it’s only available from RNM. We are recommending ONLY this video at RNM. Avoid everything else.”. No, you’re either in (and paying for everything) or you’re out.
Because RNM is primarily a source of false doctrine and false teachers, and because your church’s offering money would be going to support that – in disobedience to the commands of Scripture – you should be very concerned if your church subscribes to RNM. I would recommend that you and/or your husband set up an appointment with the pastor to discuss it. There’s an underlying issue here in subscribing to RNM – either the pastor is not exercising proper oversight over whoever subscribed the church to RNM, or the pastor is not discerning or diligent enough to know that he’s unleashing false teachers on his sheep.
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My wife and I just finished watching the taped version of your talk [from the Resolute Conference on Answers TV] and we both agreed that it was extremely helpful! Thank you for pouring your time and effort into what was a clearly well-researched message.
Thank you so much. Yes, some of the teaching sessions (including mine) from Answers in Genesis’ Answers for Women 2025 Conference, Resolute, have been posted to Answers TV. I’m sure the rest will be posted soon, so if you have a subscription, you can watch! If you don’t have a subscription, give it some consideration! It’s only $4.99 a month or $39.99 a year, plus they offer a seven day free trial to get you started! If you’d like to watch my session on the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), here’s the handout that goes along with it.
I do have one question, however. During your gospel presentation you specifically said that Christ died for “you” (i.e., the listener). But if you are saying that to an unregenerate person who has not been predestined to eternal life (according to the “U” in TULIP), how does that work with limited atonement (“The atonement for sin that Christ made on the cross applies only to those who are, or will, in the future be, saved”)?
Respectfully, how could you truthfully say that Christ died for “you,” if that person hasn’t been elected for life? Considering that you [are Reformed] your presentation of the gospel seems to be inconsistent with the doctrine of limited atonement.
I’d like to get your thoughts on this apparent discrepancy between the two. Thank you for your time and consideration!
You’re welcome. I’m glad to explain. I was speaking to about 3000 people that week (plus however many will watch the video, now), the vast majority of whom were already saved. So it is true for those people – Jesus did die for them.
When I gave the gospel presentation, I was addressing it to the elect in the audience – to those who would listen and believe the gospel, either right then, or later in life. (So it was true for them, too. Jesus died for them.) I was not speaking to those who would reject the gospel for the rest of their lives and spend an eternity in Hell – those who aren’t elect (if there were any like that in the audience), even though they could also hear me.
The thing is -and I know I’m not telling you anything new, here – you and I don’t know who’s elect and who’s not. That’s above our pay grade and none of our business. That’s God’s purview. The only way we can know for sure that someone is elect is after she gets genuinely saved and perseveres to the end. If she’s genuinely saved, that means she’s elect. But we can’t know before someone gets saved whether or not she’s elect, so, like the sower, we scatter the seed of the gospel with wild abandon, trusting God’s sovereignty as to what kind of soil it lands on and leaving everything after our gospel presentation up to Him.
I would also appeal to Scripture:
In Peter’s sermon in Acts 3, he’s preaching an evangelistic sermon and says -without knowing whether or not any of his audience is elect:
For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways.
Was everyone he was preaching to elect? Probably not.
In 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Paul hearkens back to the gospel he proclaimed to these brothers when they were lost and says he told them that “Christ died for our sins”. At the time he originally said that, he had no way of knowing whether or not everyone he was preaching to would believe.
But all of that being said, I did read back through all of the sermons in Acts and some other evangelistic encounters in Scripture (and also discussed this on Sunday with one of our {unofficial} lay elders at church), and the general approach seemed to be: You’re a sinner, here’s what Jesus did so salvation and the forgiveness of sin could take place, repent, believe it, and be saved. The personal appeal was placed on the “you must repent and believe” part, not on the “Jesus died” part.
So, sure, I’ll tweak things and try to pattern my gospel presentation more in the style of the Apostles, not because of Calvinism as a framework, but because, as Christians – all Christians – we do always want to be as closely aligned with Scripture as we can get. So, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I appreciate the sharpening.
But I’m not going to quibble with anyone who says, “Jesus died for you,” when she shares the gospel accurately with someone. If the person she’s talking to gets saved, it’s true. If the person she’s talking to doesn’t get saved, she’s technically made a good faith, optimistic mistake while earnestly appealing to him to repent and believe the gospel, but she hasn’t sinned, it doesn’t matter to that person, and she hasn’t sent that person to Hell by saying so. And … you know … she’s sharing the gospel.
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I get lots of questions about particular authors, pastors, and Bible teachers, and whether or not I recommend them. Some of the best known can be found above at my Popular False Teachers tab. The teacher below is someone I’ve been asked about recently, so I’ve done some research on her.
Generally speaking, in order for me to recommend a teacher, speaker, or author, he or she has to meet three criteria:
a) A female teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly preach to or teach men in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual).
b) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers. This is a violation of Scripture.
c) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be teaching false doctrine.
In some cases, I am not very familiar with the teachers I’m asked about (there are so many out there!) and have not had the opportunity to examine their writings or hear them speak, so most of the research I do involves items a and b (although in order to partner with false teachers (b) it is reasonable to assume their doctrine is acceptable to the false teacher and that they are not teaching anything that would conflict with the false teacher’s doctrine). Partnering with false teachers and women preaching to men are each sufficient biblical reasons not to follow a pastor, teacher, or author, or use his/her materials.
Just to be clear, “not recommended” is a spectrum. On one end of this spectrum are people like Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth and Kay Arthur. These are people I would not label as false teachers because their doctrine is generally sound, but because of some red flags I’m seeing with them, you won’t find me proactively endorsing them or suggesting them as a good resource, either. There are better people you could be listening to. On the other end of the spectrum are people like Joyce Meyer and Rachel Held Evans- complete heretics whose teachings, if believed, might lead you to an eternity in Hell. Most of the teachers I review fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum (leaning toward the latter).
If you’d like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click the Recommended Bible Teachers tab at the top of this page.
Kristi is on the Ministry Leadership faculty at Williamson (screenshot), where she teaches classes in “Goals, Priorities, and Attitudes,” “The Life of Christ, the “Israel Biblical Study Program,” and “Living Free in Christ”. One can only presume that since Williamson is co-ed, the college is fine with her “preaching,” and the fact that she’s training students in “Ministry Leadership,” that she is helping train men for the pastorate.
…and the bestselling author of” several books and Bible studies. “Kristi teaches the Bible in its historical, cultural, geographic, and linguistic contexts. She encourages believers to be postured to receive what the living God is saying through communally experiencing Scripture. Kristi teaches about the goodness of God, often experienced through table fellowship, practicing hospitality, and collaborative wisdom.”
“…Kristi has taught and shepherded thousands…Kristi began leading biblical study trips to Israel in 2008. Her study trips to the biblical lands, along with her Pearls podcast and in-person and online courses, help Westerners discover and appreciate the Bible within the framework in which it was written. This new lens offers a deeper look into what the biblical characters meant by what they did, said, and wrote, inviting us to better experience the God who is constantly pursuing us. Kristi has a Masters in Christian Education from Dallas Theological Seminary and has dedicated her life to teaching people how to study the Bible.”
I’ve added bold italics to several words and phrases above to highlight some red flags. Often, you can surmise, with some level of accuracy, what are going to be the biblical issues with a teacher you’re not familiar with merely by reading the “about” page of her website.
You’ll notice the heavy emphasis on “experiencing” God rather than growing in Christ through the study and teaching of His written Word, prayer, and sound preaching and teaching at church.
The Bible doesn’t teach us to be “postured to receive what the living God is saying” (i.e. to me, personally, today, in a self-centered hermeneutic). This is another phrase that suggests extra-biblical revelation via personal, subjective experience rather than studying the text of Scripture to discover what God has already said.
In Scripture, “shepherding” is a term reserved for literal shepherds, Jesus, and pastors, not just anyone who leads or teaches in a church or parachurch ministry, and not for women who rebel against Scripture and unbiblically insert themselves into the position of pastor (as is the case with Kristi). You will not find this term implied or applied to women anywhere in the New Testament.
Kristi says she teaches “people” how to study the Bible. Not “women”. “People” – men and women.
When someone tells you who she is, believe her.
Kristi Is a Female “Pastor”
Kristi doesn’t merely preach to men at co-ed events like most of the other female teachers I write about, she has actually been on staff at a church for several years in the position of “Teaching Pastor”. This is a clear and direct violation of Scripture and constitutes ongoing, unrepentant sin.
Kristi preached her first recorded sermon at COTC on February 4, 2018. Up until at least April 27, 2025, Kristi held the position of “Teaching Pastor” at Church of the City in Franklin, Tennessee. Sometime between February 26, 2025, when I took this screenshot of the “Pastoral & Ministry Staff” page at COTC’s website…
…Kristi was removed from the “Pastoral & Ministry Staff” page. Her April 27, 2025 “sermon” is currently the most recent one at COTC’s YouTube channel, and it still introduces her as “Teaching Pastor”:
Whether Kristi has actually resigned her position or has merely been removed from the staff page to avoid being called to account for her sin remains to be seen.
Prior to working as a “pastor” at COTC, Kristi was on staff at Strong Tower Bible Church in Nashville, Tennessee. Though Kristi didn’t “carry the title of pastor,” p.3, of the October 2013 church newsletter is careful to tell us*, according to her LinkedIn page, she was the “Director of Women’s Ministry and Adult Christian Education [i.e. discipleship],” which, in addition to the fact that she was occasionally preaching the Sunday sermon at least as early as 2015, indicates that she was functioning in the role of a pastor, even without the title.1
*(Readers might find it interesting that STBC was careful to make clear that none of the women they referred to in 2013 were pastors, yet today, STBC’s female “pastors” are proudly listed on the church website and outnumber the lone male pastor three to one {the pastor’s wife is also the “Pastor of Belonging”}. This is what happens when a church begins allowing women to take on roles the Bible restricts to men.)
This is probably overstating the obvious since I’ve already mentioned that, as a member of the “Ministry Leadership” faculty at Williamson College, Kristi helps train men for the pastorate, and, that as a “pastor” on staff at two different churches, she obviously preached to men, so I won’t belabor the point, but we will press on.
Kristi regularly and unrepentantly violates Scripture by preaching to and instructing men in the Scriptures. Here are just a few of the scores of examples available:
Church of the City
(Obviously, in each example, there are men in the audience since these are all sermons during the church worship service.)
Below is a partial listing of the sermon archives at the COTC website for Kristi’s many “sermons” – nearly 70 of them at this time. Kristi has also taught – also nearly 70 times – COTC Daily, a church-wide daily Bible teaching video.
Kristi’s earliest recorded “sermon” at the COTC website: February 4, 2018…
Mother’s Day, May 9, 2021– 54:51: In case you still aren’t convinced Kristi preaches to men, she is happy to settle that for you once and for all. “This teaching is not just for women. So can I just hear some noise from all the men in the room to let me know that you’re here?”
The Lord’s Supper
Perhaps one of the most viscerally vile aspects of a woman pillaging the pulpit is the stomach-turning scene of her desecrating the Lord’s Table by presiding over it. Kristi has administered the Lord’s Supper numerous times at COTC. here are just a few examples:
July 17, 2022 124:59: COTC apparently practices open communion (anyone present is invited to participate regardless of whether or not the person is saved). The elements have already been placed at everyone’s seat, and Kristi says nothing to fence the table (i.e. at a bare minimum, explain that only those who are Believers should partake). There’s also no explanation of the gospel or a call to repent and believe it.
Although I haven’t run across any photos or video of Kristi performing baptisms at COTC, it’s reasonable to assume that she has or that she at least would be allowed to if she wanted to, because there’s plenty of video of other female “pastors” of COTC performing baptisms, and Kristi certainly performs baptisms in other venues.
Baptism, like the Lord’s Supper, is an ordinance of the local church, not an individualized personal activity, and should be presided over within the parameters of the church by pastors and elders. What you see below is neither.
A Weekend with Kristi McLelland at Discovery Church, Newton, North Carolina. The first night was “a co-ed event where both men and women are able to learn a new way to look a (sic) scripture (sic).”
A few different “sermons” at Journey Church in Brentwood, TN. Here’s one where she’s introduced by Journey’s “Pastor Susie”:
Feast is the branding for Kristi’s Lifeway Women conference tour, this year in Denver, Ft. Worth, and Atlanta. At the FAQ page, a frequently asked question is “Can men attend this event?”. Answer: “Men are more than welcome to attend…”.2
Cruise with Kristi McLelland: Voyage Through the New Testament World is coming up in April 2026. Since the Lifeway info. page doesn’t specify that this event is limited to women (and since they use the “Kristi teaches people” {rather than women} phraseology at least twice), I emailed and asked, point blank, if the cruise is open to men and if men are allowed to attend Kristi’s teaching sessions.2
The Bible commands us over and over not to associate ourselves or have anything to do with false teachers or those who claim to be Christians, yet live in willful unrepentant sin (persistent false teaching, including the false teaching of women “pastoring” or “preaching to men3, being one of those sins). In fact, to associate with false teachers and fail to rebuke them for their false doctrine disqualifies pastors from ministry. Dare we expect any less from female teachers?
Unfortunately, unrepentantly yoking with other false teachers is another sin Kristi unrepentantly engages in. Teachers are under a stricter judgment, and this is another disqualifying sin.
By her own choice, Kristi’s life and ministry are absolutely saturated with false and problematic teachers, virtually to the exclusion of doctrinally sound teachers. But even if she wanted to partner with doctrinally sound teachers, she wouldn’t be able to find one who would be willing. Doctrinally sound teachers don’t partner with women who unrepentantly rebel against Scripture by becoming “pastors”.
There are so many examples of Kristi partnering with other false teachers that it would be impossible to cite them all, but here is a sampling:
Kristi is a frequent guest on TBN’s Better Together. If you’re not familiar, it’s a little bit like a “Christian” version of The View without the studio audience. A group of several (varying) women’s “Bible” study celebrities discuss life issues and biblical topics. And, par for the course for TBN, they’re all problematic at best, raging heretics at worst. (There’s a reason TBN is often wryly dubbed the “Total Blasphemy Network”.)
To date, Kristi has appeared on at least 46 episodes of Better Together (you can watch excerpts here) with false teachers including:
And more episodes are upcoming. Here’s Kristi’s Instagram reel from April 9 on the set where she, Lisa Harper, Toni Collier, and others are about to film more episodes.
Lifeway Women is the women’s division of Lifeway, and an entity of the Southern Baptist Convention (like our seminaries, mission boards, etc., are entities). It is the online platform for all things women’s ministry – Bible studies, women’s conferences, a blog, a podcast, and so on – for use and purchase by individuals and churches.
I’ve researched and written articles on about 2/3 of the women Lifeway Women platforms, enough to tell you that the prototypical women’s author/speaker they seek out – to to write their women’s “Bible” studies, speak at their women’s conferences and so on – preaches to men, teaches false doctrine, and yokes with other false teachers, all of which violates Scripture. Additionally, some are woke (like Jackie Hill Perry) and at least one identifies as a “same sex attracted Christian” (Rebecca McLaughlin). I recommend that women use Lifeway Women’s endorsement as a litmus test of who to avoid.
Kristi’s earliest appearance at Lifeway Women seems to have been a July 2, 2019 blog article called Creating Space for Sabbath. This was probably around the time Lifeway Women signed her as a women’s “Bible” study author, as Lifeway staff confirmed to me that they published her first study, Jesus & Women in “early 2020”.
As I mentioned previously, Kristi was preaching to men and functioning as a “pastor” at least as early as 2015. In this February 2023 video, she says (39:12) that she’s “in my 6th year” of being on the teaching staff of COTC Franklin, which would mean she was hired there in 2018, before Lifeway Women brought her on board.
What does that mean, my fellow Southern Baptists, and why should you care? That means that Lifeway Women knewKristi was currently working as a “pastor” when they decided to platform her. And despite our crystal clear statement of faith, the Baptist Faith and Message, which states unequivocally that only biblically qualified men may be pastors, they went ahead and hired her to teach and disciple Southern Baptist (and other) women anyway, and have continued to employ and platform her, knowing she’s a “pastor,” for the past 6-7 years.2
(If you’re not already outraged over all of that, I would encourage you to spend some time pondering this high-handed, flagrant, and audacious slap-in-the-face sin against Almighty God and every Southern Baptist on the planet, and ask the Lord to stir up in you a good, holy, righteous, zealous fury in this matter for the glory of His name and His Word, and the sake of His precious daughters. This is spiritual abuse, and we’ve been played.)
Of course, as a Lifeway Women platformed author/speaker, Kristi has been a guest on numerous episodes of Marked and other Lifeway Women productions. Most recently, Kristi did a seven week stint on Marked teaching her study, The Gospel on the Ground.
Lifeway Women Live 2020
Lifeway Women Live 2021. Photo courtesy of Lifeway Newsroom. Seated L-R: Jackie Hill Perry, Angie Smith, Kristi McLelland, and Ruth Chou Simons
2022- Kristi speaks at the Kerygma Summit women’s conference with false teachers Christine Caine and Lisa Harper, founder of the conference. In the Greek, “kerygma” means to preach the good news. And considering the fact that Kristi is a “pastor” and Christine and Lisa both preach to men, I’m sure the emphasis of the conference is on “preach” rather than “good news”.
2023- Speaking again with Christine Caine and Lisa Harper at Grace Family Church in Tampa, Florida (another church with women “pastors”) at The Beautiful Conference.
Spent the weekend in Rochester, MN at a conference with Kelly Minter. I’ve lost 2 good friends over the last few weeks – Gabe Patillo and Mandisa. It’s hard to go out when you’re grieving, but Kelly and these women were a GIFT to me. We are better together. pic.twitter.com/iENDeyePCz
Kristi on Lisa Harper’s podcast in 2022. Part of the transcript of Lisa’s introduction of Kristi reads: “I first met Kristi…goodness gracious, I think 30 years ago…I’ve been a huge fan ever since last couple of years…By the mercy of God, we’ve gotten to do a lot of life together. Currently, she is not only one of my favorite professors, she’s teaching me how to play pickleball…”
Golf the Mac, “A world class weekend of golf, music, & purpose,” co-ed, no doubt, is coming up in September with Toby Mac*.
*Toby Mac isn’t doctrinally sound. He’s got lots of connections with Bethel, he’s obviously fine with Kristi being a “pastor,” yoking with false teachers, and teaching false doctrine, and there are other issues.
Kristi Teaches False Doctrine
I’ve cited a couple of instances of Kristi’s unbiblical teaching above. Let’s look at a few more.
Extra-Biblical Revelation
The Bible does not teach us that we’re supposed to “hear God speaking to us” outside the pages of Scripture. It teaches us that God’s Word is sufficient. Kristi, however, employs various methods of “hearing from God”.
God supposedly spoke to Kristi as she explains in this December 23, 2018 “sermon” at COTC- (101:50) “I was on a rooftop in India one night watching the sun go down and I had been in a season of prayer about what was next in my life when I heard the Lord, clear as a bell just tell me, “Kristi, it’s time for you to go to seminary.”. And I believe that I heard, in part, because I was postured to receive. I was creating space for the living God to come in and say what He wanted to say, to do what He wanted to do.”
Most Christians have heard the old joke about the guy who wanted God to speak to him. He let his Bible fall open to a random page, closed his eyes and pointed to a verse on the page. He opened his eyes and found his finger on Matthew 27:5: “Judas went out and hanged himself.”. “Well,” he thought to himself, “that couldn’t possibly be God speaking to me. I’ll try again.”. He repeated the process, only to find that this time his finger landed on Luke 10:37: “Go and do thou likewise.”.
The fact that we joke about this points to how silly it is to think God communicates with us this way.
But in an interview and article on The 700 Club on CBN, Taking a Fresh Look at the Holy Land, Kristi explains how she actually used this method and believed it was God speaking to her about a life decision. This is a Bible scholar?
Desperate to hear from the Lord, Kristi opened the Bible and said, “Okay God, I need you to speak to me.” She randomly laid her finger on a scripture, (sic) and it landed on Psalms 78:19 which reads, “Can God really spread a table in the wilderness?” Kristi knew she was hearing from the Lord. Reading how God provided manna from Heaven for His children during their “wilderness” experience comforted her. God was letting her know that He would take care of her if she would only trust Him.
The Enneagram
Though its ubiquity seems to be waning and it will probably soon be relegated to the dust bin along with The Prayer of Jabez and WWJD bracelets, the Enneagram has been a popular fad for the past several years among the divangelista4 set. Unfortunately, the Enneagram is steeped in unbiblical mysticism and undermines the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture.
…but in this “sermon” at Journey Church, Faith to Let Go (27:00), Kristi says she’s an Enneagram 6.
I didn’t know Enneagram numbers were fluid, but…OK.
Mysticism and Spiritual Formation
Silence. Solitude. Those are words that should make your ears perk up if you hear them in the context of a Bible study or sermon, because they often indicate that you’re being taught some form of Spiritual Formation or unbiblical mysticism. And that’s just what Kristi gives us the tiniest whiff of in this January 26, 2020 “sermon” at COTC, Practicing the Way:
You’ll notice from the beginning that Kristi is not exegeting or expositing a text of Scripture. This is all about personal experience and what people do. In the first 4 1/2 minutes of this “sermon” she asks the audience three or four times to raise their hands if they think X or do Y.
7:52- Kristi actually reads two verses of Scripture, John 5:1-2. They have nothing to do with silence and solitude, and she is basically using them as a springboard to talk about what she really wants to talk about, the geography, archaeology, and architecture related to the passage.
11:43- Kristi does the same thing with John 5:3-6. She uses it as a means to transition into talking about Middle Eastern culture and history.
16:00- Halfway through a 32 minute “sermon” on silence and solitude, Kristi has taught nothing about silence and solitude, she has cited no Scripture that teaches about silence and solitude, and she has taught only architecture, history and culture – and zero exposition of spiritual principles – from John 5:1-6.
16:25- Kristi begins eisegeting her own ideas about wellness and healing into the text:
“‘You know how to live lame. Are you ready to know yourself at full speed? Are you ready to steward the wellness, the healing that I can bring you, and what that’s going to mean for you in your life?’ I think this question finds us often in times of silence and solitude…”
None of that has anything to do with the meaning of John 5:1-6, but Kristi isn’t interested in teaching what this passage actually means (if she were, she would have finished the passage, and would have handled it accurately), she wants to teach her own thoughts, ideas, and stories.
Also, “questions” do not “find you”. Questions are thoughts that you form in your mind by thinking. They are not animate, sentient objects outside yourself that hunt you down. This is part of the mysticism Kristi is foisting upon her audience.
17:30- Kristi exegetes two back to back personal anecdotes. She spends much more time on these than she did on actual Scripture; Scripture she did not, in fact, teach.
26:55- With about five minutes left in her “sermon,” Kristi talks for a few seconds about practicing the “rhythm” (another buzzword to be aware of) of silence and solitude. This is time, she says, for the audience to sit in silence so God can “meet with them”. She doesn’t instruct them to pray, which would be the biblical thing to do, but to “sit in silence”. No mention of what’s supposed to be happening or what it will look like if God “meets with them” while they’re “sitting in silence”. But that’s what they do for the next five minutes (until Kristi, once again, desecrates the Lord’s Table by presiding over it as a “pastor”).
Kristi has not taught the audience what silence and solitude mean, what Scripture says about it, or why they should practice it. She hasn’t properly taught Scripture, nor has she even done more than touch on the false doctrine her “sermon” was supposed to be about. It was just thirty two minutes of paid talk therapy for Kristi.
Secular Humanistic Therapy Philosophy and Standpoint Epistemology
In this November 14, 2021 “sermon,” The Fire of Jesus (109:40) Kristi says: “I am back in therapy, and you can only teach from where you’re at, so probably my next 500 teachings are going to somehow be connected with my therapy…And I’m reading the Bible with different eyes because my soul is being stirred in a different way. There is a work of God – a deep work of God – going on in my life right now…but story reads story, and that’s the way it’s meant to be. You’re meant to read the Bible in your story.”
Secular “trauma therapy” is another fad that’s popular among evangelical celebrities right now. Here’s an excerpt from my article on Tara-Leigh Cobble, who’s a champion of this unbiblical practice:
And since she brought it up in this post, I’d like to address another issue here. Tara-Leigh refers to her own “therapist” and also says, “I can’t think of a teacher/preacher I respect (in modern times) who hasn’t openly talked about seeing a licensed therapist…I believe in it so much that I’ve even paid for therapy for my team members. It’s VITAL.”
While everyone faces difficulties from time to time, and some of those difficulties are intense enough that a time of pastoral or biblical counseling is needed, routine or ongoing “therapy” from a “licensed therapist” (which, in the common vernacular, and at “trauma” events like this one, usually refers to a secular psychiatrist, psychologist, or other mental health professional) is no more “VITAL,” or even indicated, for normal, healthy individuals – even for non-Christians – than a weekly trip to the doctor for someone who isn’t sick.
The idea that Christians, across the board, need to be in therapy on a regular basis as though that’s normal or vital is found nowhere in Scripture, and undermines the Bible’s teaching that Scripture alone is sufficient for life and godliness.
Secular therapists (and even most “Christian counselors/therapists”) use humanistic, unbiblical methods and paradigms. (And I ought to know. I have a BA in psychology and did my Master’s work in {secular} marriage and family counseling.) When Christians have problems, the biblical thing to do is to turn to Christ and His Word, not worldly worldviews and coping mechanisms.
And this “story reads story,” read yourself into Scripture idea? Sounds great on the surface, but it’s completely unbiblical. The theological terms for this are eisegesis and standpoint epistemology – in a nutshell, reading yourself into Scripture and interpreting Scripture based on what it means to you through the lens of your personal life and experiences.
Over the past few years, several of my followers have sent me (unsolicited) their impressions of Kristi’s teaching:
Follower 1: My church women’s group did the Kristie Mclleland (sic) Luke in the Land study. In the book, on almost every page, she drove this point about “bringing God’s Kingdom to Empire” and “bringing Kingdom to earth” over and over and over. This was the central point of the book, that we must strive to bring Kingdom to earth.
Then, in the very last chapter, on the last page or two of the book was her agenda finally revealed….she introduced this Jewish concept called Tikkum Olam which means “to repair the world” and said we should adopt this. We must go out and fix the world of its problems.
No talk of sin or how it’s not our job as Christians to repair the consequences of sin in the world. No talk of how Jesus took care of this on the cross. This woman is a deceiver.
Here is the exact quote from the book Luke In The Land study (on page 148-149), very last pages of the text.
“The Jewish people have a phrase that has captured my heart and attention over the last year. It’s the tikkun olam – the “repair of the world” or the “fixing of the world.” For the Jews, the invitation is to engage the world, not retreat from it. The Jewish people are living out the mandate given to their ancestors Abraham and Sarah in Genesis 18:19– to do what is just (mishpat) and right (tzedakah). They are engaging the world to heal it, to better it, to embody the work of tikkun olam.”
Then, in the participation questions, she asks “How can you engage and embody the work of tikkun olam in your everyday life?” This is how the study ends, this is the culminating message that she has worked up to in every chapter.
I believe it’s deception to give that people the idea that they can repair the world, even if they’re working in the Holy Spirit. That’s not what Jesus told us to do. I’m not sure if this is NAR or Dominionism or what, but it’s unbiblical.
Follower 2: [In the] Jesus and Women Bible study she uses a quote from Russell Moore in the introduction on page 5. The study itself also seems to engage the reader or student in more self focus than Christ focused.
Follower 3: From the couple of hours I spent reading and listening to her content, she is very Me centered and into emotionalism. She rarely quotes the Bible, or gives any evidence for her beliefs other than ” I Felt that God was leading me”.
Follower 4: I’ve watched the first session video of Jesus and Women, 3 sermons, and 2 interviews. This woman reads little Scripture then proceeds to “pontificate” for the next hour. She’s made statements “our pain moves God to action” “we create or destroy worlds with our words” “the fire of Jesus is actually healing and not punitive” “we are meant to read the Bible according to our story.” “Prayer is meant to be this subversive presence in the earth by which the Kingdom of God is entering the restoration, renewal, and repair of all things into this broken world because we are an Easter people living in a Good Friday world.” “We are being invited (by God) to round up.” ??? She announced to the congregation last November during a sermon that she was “back in therapy.”
I wanted to share this with you so that other women can be forewarned. I too was deceived at a time in my life and I pray – NO MORE! Sola Scriptura. (I watched [COTC sermons] “Prayer is Subversive”, “Let it go, lay it down” and the first session of Jesus and Women.)
I wanted to take a closer look at Kristi’s writing and theology, so I went through Lifeway’s sample of her book Luke in the Land. My notes below include page numbers if you’d like to follow along. The text starts on p. 13.
Right off the bat, the pre-study questions lead the reader to focus narcissistically on self / self as authority:
p. 13- Me, me, me and my feelings
p. 16- I could get a really good sense of who you are, whom you love, what you care about, and the world that has shaped you and your worldview simply by looking at your photo albums and your snapshots—the snapshots you chose to keep along the way. What are some of your favorite snapshots or stories in your own life? Who’s in your photo albums? What places are in your photo albums?
p. 17- What are some of your favorite “snapshots” from Scripture? From Jesus’s life?
p. 17- Prompted by the Holy Spirit, Luke recorded the exact stories the living God wanted us to have. This makes me want to EAT my Bible and carry it around inside me. I want to see the snapshots He wants me to have, to hold, to carry within me as I live, move, and have my being in this life... What began in Luke would see fulfillment throughout Acts and on and on until this very moment you and I find ourselves in. We too are part of this story.
Me, me, me. The Bible is about me.
Kristi also muddies the waters on the theopneustos of Scripture:
p. 17- “Prompted by the Holy Spirit,” p. 19- “Led by the Holy Spirit”.
Evangelicals often describe themselves as being prompted or led by the Spirit. The inspiration of Scripture is more than that, plus she heavily emphasizes that Luke interviewed people and collected their stories, making it sound like he was merely a human biographer rather than a writer of God-breathed Scripture.
p. 20- Within these difficult stories of harsh domination by cruel pharaohs, kings, and caesars, there are stories of light in the darkness, hope in the midst of despair, and of salvation and deliverance. These biblical stories teach us to look for light in our own darkness, to reach for hope in our own despair, and to courageously cry out for salvation and deliverance in our own lives.
No, they don’t. Relief from, or solutions to personal problems is not the purpose of these passages. Their purpose is to display God’s glory in the grand narrative of Scripture and the story of redemption.
p. 21- Jesus, the King of kings, came all the way to the lowest circle of humanity, found the lost, the sick, and the marginalized, and prioritized them.
No, He didn’t. God is no respecter of persons. He does not show favoritism. Jesus preached the gospel to everyone who would listen and welcomed any who were repentant and believed.
p. 25- Throughout both the Sermon on the Mount and in His teaching and ministry as a Rabbi of Israel, He continually proclaimed one theme. What was that theme? LOOK UP MATTHEW 4:17,23-25; LUKE 4:43; LUKE 10:1-9; ACTS 1:1-3. What was Jesus proclaiming in all these verses?
How can the reader possibly know? This is the introduction to Luke. The reader hasn’t yet studied the book of Luke to glean the answer to all of this.
p. 26- Simply put, the kingdom of God is God’s reign over the universe. He is sovereign and has dominion over everything in and under heaven. It’s a term that’s used in the Old Testament, but “arises more specifically from Jesus’ proclamation of the inbreaking of God’s rule.” And what is God’s rule breaking in on? The empire. Jesus’s world in Luke, and our world today, was and is anchored in the way of the empire.
1. “God’s rule” has been there from eternity past. It’s not “breaking in” like this world is our place and He’s an unwanted intruder.
2. God has been ruling His people since Creation.
3. The kingdom of God is salvation and the gospel. It’s coming to save people -spiritually- not defeat worldly “empires”.
4. What is “the way of empire”? That’s not a phrase used in Scripture, it’s a phrase Kristi came up with and she just throws it out there without explaining it.
p. 27- This chart makes no sense whatsoever. The example she’s given seems to be backwards according to what little she’s said about the Kingdom of God vs. “Empire”. Shouldn’t “striving” be under “Empire,” and “Sabbath/Rest” be under “Kingdom”? (And what does any of this have to do with the text of Luke 1 or 2, which is where she should be starting a study of the book of Luke?)
This concept of the inbreaking of God’s rule was central to Jesus’s teaching,
Then why doesn’t the text of Luke (or any of the other gospels) say anything about that?
p. 29- READ ISAIAH 9:6-7. Which of these names and promises about Jesus do you think the people of the time were most excited about? What do you think they were looking for in the promised Messiah?
1. What difference does it make what they were excited about?
2. This is speculation, not study. What does the text say?
Which of the promises about the Messiah from Isaiah 9:6-7 brings you the most comfort?
And now we’re back to narcissistic navel-gazing.
Cell phones came out when I was a sophomore in college…
Personal anecdote.
Have you had a similar experience of being really lost? What did you feel when you realized you were lost?
Personal experience and feelings. What about the text of Luke?
p. 30- LOOK AT GENESIS 3:8-10 AGAIN. What was the first question God asked of man? These three words in English are one word in Hebrew—ayeka. When you read this, how do you imagine hearing the tone in His voice? In your imagination, does he sound angry? Disappointed? Sad? Frantic? Why do you imagine his voice and tone sounding that way?
Imagination? Tone of voice? Feelings? Why are we speculating and using our imaginations (about a passage in Genesis) instead of studying the text of Luke?
p. 31- Compassion is not so much an emotion that we feel. Compassion is a location- we are compassionate when we locate ourselves with someone in his or her pain. The Lord looked for Adam and Eve in the garden to meet them in their pain. Most of all, I imagine ayeka with a tone of compassion.
Their pain? They had sinned and rebelled against the holy God of the universe and they were ashamed and guilty. The remainder of Genesis 3 is God meting out the judgment and punishment of their sin. “Their pain”? This is an ungodly way of softening sin and its consequences (because now, when you sin, you’re in “pain” and God “meets you in your pain” with “compassion”), and it is not biblical regardless of how Kristi “imagines” it.
Throughout the Gospel of Luke, we will see Jesus practicing compassion—locating Himself with people right in the middle of their pain. He sought out and found the lost and offered to bring them home. He does the same today. Jesus is not afraid of our sin or our pain; He meets us there and offers to bring us home.
What would it look like for you to invite God to locate Himself with you in your pain today? Take a moment and praise God for His presence. Ask to feel His presence and compassion in your pain,
Me, me, me, and my feelings. This sounds really cozy, but where’s the repentance?
Once again, Kristi is softening sin and its consequences. Yes, Jesus was compassionate to repentant, believing sinners. But He didn’t “locate Himself with people right in the middle of their pain,” or “find the lost and offer to bring them home” (whatever that means). Jesus called sinners to repentance and to believe the gospel. He does the same today.
This “study” is quite disjointed. Kristi skips around all over the place, and at the end of the first 33 pages, the reader still hasn’t read any significant portion of Luke.
It’s like she’s using various verses from Luke (and other Scriptures) to support her historical theories. Kristi cherry picks a few verses here and there from Luke but never instructs the reader to sit down and read the opening chapters of Luke in their entirety. This is a history lesson supported by the Bible, not a Bible lesson informed by historical context.
And don’t get me wrong, historical context is fine, but this is a lot more history than Bible. It feels like what Kristi would really rather be doing is teaching Middle Eastern history and culture than the precepts of Scripture. Where a Lisa Harper or Beth Moore “study” would be largely personal anecdotes with a few out of context Bible verses sprinkled in to bolster whatever ideas they’re trying to teach, Kristi’s study is largely academic: etymology and historical/cultural anecdotes with a few out of context Bible verses sprinkled in to bolster the ideas she’s trying to teach.
And don’t be fooled by the academics. Every time Kristi cites a Greek word or relates a story from history or explains a Middle Eastern cultural concept, it boosts her stature and credibility in the eyes of the reader. “Wow! She really knows her Bible! What a great teacher! We’d better listen to her!”. But if you’ve ever taken a college level history or language class, you know that any pagan with an education can tell you what a word means or who was king two thousand years ago, and what he did.
Knowledge of Greek and Hebrew, and Middle Eastern history and culture is not the same thing as knowing Christ and His Word. Kristi demonstrates that with the fruit of her life: stealing the position of “pastor,” preaching to men, exercising authority over men, administering the Lord’s Supper and baptizing, yoking with false teachers, and teaching false doctrine. Jesus didn’t say, “by their degrees and education you will know them,” He said, “by their fruit you will know them”:
“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits. 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
Matthew 7:15-23
Kristi’s book learning and eloquence demands that you regard her as a mature, knowledgeable Christian and excellent teacher. But God says:
And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, truly in him the love of God has been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
1 John 2:3-6
Are you going to believe Kristi or are you going to believe God?
Kristi seems like a very nice person. She’s obviously smart and well educated. She’s charming and personable. But she’s not teaching the truth of Scripture, and the fruit of her life is rebellion against Scripture. She says in numerous “sermons” and interviews that she loves the Bible and that the only thing she ever wanted to do in life was to teach the Bible. But she rejects the Bible at every turn, whether it’s disobeying what the Bible says about the role of women in the church, or spending most of her writing or teaching time talking about things besides the Bible. For all of these reasons, with sadness, it is my recommendation that you obey Scripture and stay away from Kristi McLelland and all of her materials and resources.
1A special note to my fellow Southern Baptists: We have heard the SBC platform minimize numerous times in recent years the problem of SBC churches with women in the position of “pastor”. It’s supposedly such a non-existent problem that in May 2025, Keven Ezell, head of NAMB, said during a podcast interview that he would give $10K to anyone who could show him a NAMB church plant with a woman pastor. Now, COTC may not have been a NAMB church plant, but they certainly were (and still are as of the release date of this article) listed on the church finder at the SBC website the whole time Kristi (and other women “pastors” who are still on staff) was listed on COTC’s website as a “Teaching Pastor”.
2Again, Southern Baptists, let that sink in. For the past several years we’ve been told by SBC leadership that there’s virtually no issue with women pastors in the SBC. The Law/Sanchez amendment (to require that churches in friendly cooperation with the SBC must have only male pastors) to our constitution has failed to pass for three years in a row. And Lifeway – one of your Southern Baptist entities – welcomes men to be taught by a female “pastor”.
3Women who “pastor” or “preach” to men are false teachers because they teach via their behavior, example, and often their words, the false doctrine that you’re free to ignore and disobey any command of Scripture you don’t like, such as the commands forbidding women from pastoring, preaching, instructing men in the Scriptures, and holding authority over men in the gathering of the Body.
4“Divangelista” is just a slang term I coined because the phrase “popular women’s ‘Bible’ study authors” is too long and cumbersome for writing. It’s a combination of the words “diva” and “evangelical” and rhymes with “Sandinista” (if you’re old enough to remember them) for no particular reason.
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My husband was just recently selected as pastor of a nearby church. This is his first pastorate. We didn’t know before he accepted the position, but it seems that alcohol is sometimes present at fellowships. The women at the church had a little fellowship after finishing a Bible study series and from pictures on FB, I already see wine. So as a new pastor’s wife, how do I even go about that? I will soon be at those studies and fellowships and I don’t know how to go about that with love. Do I just say right there and then that it’s not prudent or wait till afterwards and say something? Seems this will be one of the things my husband will have to tackle due to the last pastorate being weak. Thank you for your time.
There can be a pretty big learning curve when it comes to transitioning from “regular church member” to “pastor’s wife”. Church members view you differently, you view yourself differently, and there’s the constant self-inflicted pressure to be a good reflection on your husband.
Usually, the best thing to do is to ask your husband how he wants you to handle things, and I would definitely recommend you do that in this situation. But as you’re asking him, and handling things accordingly, here are a few things to keep in mind:
⛪︎ Drinking alcohol, in and of itself, is not intrinsically sinful. If it were, Jesus Himself would have been a sinner. While there are many good reasons to seriously consider the wisdom and the witness of drinking alcohol -as an individual or at church functions- the Bible only prohibits drunkenness. The Bible does not have a zero tolerance policy toward alcohol (in fact, in some passages, God speaks about it in a very positive way). So that’s something to keep in mind when you go to the Bible studies and fellowships. As long as no one’s getting drunk, these women are not sinning. You need to be sure you’re not thinking about this as a sin issue, but as a wisdom issue.
⛪︎ I would not automatically assume that alcohol is acceptable at church functions because the previous pastor was “weak” – in other words, that he just let the congregation run wild and was too cowardly to address sin in the camp. That could be what happened, but there could also be another explanation. Some generally doctrinally sound, theologically conservative churches believe that, because drinking alcohol is not a sin, it’s OK to offer it right alongside the tea and cokes and water bottles at fellowships and other events. That could be another explanation.
⛪︎ “You can’t turn the Titanic around on a dime.” A pastor friend of mine once gave me that valuable piece of advice. In the first few weeks or couple of months of your husband’s new pastorate, he’s probably noticed dozens of things in this church that need correction. If he has determined that alcohol at fellowships is one of those things, you need to trust him to address it whenever and in whatever way he thinks is best. And that might take a while, because this issue might not be at the top of his list of “Urgent Things that Need Fixing Immediately”. Trust your husband and trust God to guide your husband and give him wisdom.
⛪︎ Lead by example. “How do I go about that?” you asked. There’s really no need for you to “go about” anything. While you’re waiting for and trusting your husband to address the issue, go to the fellowships and Bible studies, have a good time, and drink something non-alcoholic. No big whoop. If someone notices over time that you’re not drinking alcohol and asks you about it, just quietly, briefly, and biblically explain to her (not the whole room – it’ll get around, trust me) why you personally have chosen not to drink. (That means you’ll need to search the Scriptures and pray about it so you’ll be clear in your own heart and mind why you’ve made this choice and will be able to articulate it to others.) Those simple, quiet acts may just set an example the ladies would like to follow and the issue may take care of itself.
But all that being said, talk to your husband about it, ask him how he’d like you to handle (or not handle) things, and do that.
A few months into my marriage, I became uncomfortable with the theology and denomination my wife and I were in when we got married. Over time, I recognized unbiblical practices and false teachings, which were not apparent to me during courtship. As a result, I left the ministry four years ago, and my wife and I now have one child.
Unfortunately, in my attempt to bring her along with me, I took some wrong steps, for which I have apologized. However, I remain deeply concerned about the influence of these teachings on our relationship and our son. When I expressed my opposition to her taking him to the meetings, she repeatedly threatened to leave the marriage if I tried to intervene. This ongoing conflict has led me to decide that I do not wish to have more children with her as long as she continues this practice.
I would greatly appreciate your perspective on this situation.
That is definitely a tough one, brother, and my heart goes out to you.
I would encourage you to do a deep dive on these Scriptures and walk them out in your marriage. (on the 1 Peter passage, do verse 7, and do a husbandly version of verses 1-6).
As you’re doing that, I would also encourage you -if you’re now in a doctrinally sound church- to set up an appointment with your pastor for counsel and discipleship about this. He may counsel you himself or he may introduce you to a “Titus 2” godly older man in the church who can walk you through this.
If you’re not already a member of a doctrinally sound church, two recommendations:
Go to the Searching for a new church? tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page, and find a good church. Then contact the pastor, explain your situation, and ask if he can help.
If it’s taking you a while to find a good church, while you’re still looking, go to the Biblical Counseling Resources tab in that same blue menu bar, and contact an ACBC certified biblical counselor in your area for help. (Biblical counseling is completely different from “Christian counseling”. I would not recommend traditional Christian counseling.)
I am confused. I thought any time someone is associated with false teachers that person is considered a false teachers as well? But yet, [someone like Allie Beth Stuckey] isn’t considered a false teacher?
First, a little background information for those who aren’t aware. Allie Beth Stuckey is the conservative Christian host of the widely popular podcast, Relatable. When she first started out, her main focus was discussing politics from a conservative viewpoint. As time went by, her show became increasingly theological in nature. Unfortunately, as that dynamic unfolded it also became increasingly apparent that Allie is sadly lacking in discernment, and I eventually had to remove her from my recommends for that reason. (More here.)
It recently came to light that Allie is planning to yoke, once again, with some egregious* false teachers. She will be speaking at Thinq Summit 2025 (formerly Q Conference / Q-ideas), founded and run by Gabe and Rebekah Lyons. Here’s my Instagram post about it:
*When I say “egregious,” I’m not exaggerating. The people she has been yoking with lately are not Christians with minor differences on minor matters. Lisa Bevere is a literal NAR heretic, and the Lyonses are so progressive and woke I’m surprised they still pass as “Christians” to anyone, lost or saved.
I also posted about this on my Facebook page, and that’s where this reader’s question came from. Let me see if I can help clear things up.
Yoking with false teachers is a sin. The Bible commands us time and again to have nothing to do with false teachers (much less join with them in any endeavor, especially under the banner of a “Christian” event). When Scripture tells us not to do something and we do it anyway, that’s a sin. Allie is committing a sin by yoking with these false teachers.
But a false teacher is someone who sins by teaching false doctrine. At the moment (and as far as I know) the doctrine Allie believes and proclaims is still, generally, biblical and sound. However, as 1 Corinthians 15:33 tells us: “Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good morals.” This is not just true of our personal morals and behavior, but the same principle holds true for our doctrine and beliefs. Associating with false teachers can lead us astray from sound doctrine. This is one of the reasons why the Scriptures I linked above command us not to have anything to do with false teachers.
In other words, by continually associating with false teachers, someone’s beliefs and doctrine can be corrupted and she could become a false teacher herself. I do not think that has happened to Allie yet. Allie’s situation at the moment is similar to Josh Buice’s situation. She is a high profile, doctrinally sound Christian who has sinned.
If you don’t know what transpired last week, click the link above to get it straight from the horse’s mouth of G3 Ministries.
Because Josh is under church discipline and is likely permanently disqualified from ministry, I have removed him from my list of Recommended Bible Teachers, Authors, Etc. And since G3 has decided to remove all of Josh’s content from their website, I will also be removing links to his materials from all of my articles because those links will no longer be functional. This is going to take a long time because I’m just going to remove them as I come across them, and there are a lot of them. If you’d like to help me out, drop me an email, PM/DM, blog or social media comment if you’re reading one of my articles and come across a link to something of his so I can remove it. Thanks.
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Generally speaking, in order for me to recommend a teacher, speaker, or author, he or she has to meet three criteria:
a) A female teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly preach to or teach men in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual).
b) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers. This is a violation of Scripture.
c) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be teaching false doctrine.
I recommend against any teacher or ministry who violates one or more of these biblical tenets.
I am not very familiar with most of the teachers I’m asked about (there are so many out there!) and have not had the opportunity to examine their writings or hear them speak, so most of the “quick checking” I do involves items a and b (although in order to partner with false teachers (b) it is reasonable to assume their doctrine is acceptable to the false teacher and that they are not teaching anything that would conflict with the false teacher’s doctrine). Partnering with false teachers and women preaching to men are each sufficient biblical reasons not to follow a pastor, teacher, or author, or use his/her materials.
Just to be clear, “not recommended” is a spectrum. On one end of this spectrum are people like Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth and Kay Arthur. These are people I would not label as false teachers because their doctrine is generally sound, but because of some red flags I’m seeing with them, you won’t find me proactively endorsing them or suggesting them as a good resource, either. There are better people you could be listening to. On the other end of the spectrum are people like Joyce Meyer and Rachel Held Evans- complete heretics whose teachings, if believed, might lead you to an eternity in Hell. Most of the teachers I review fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum (leaning toward the latter).
If you’d like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click the Recommended Bible Teachers tab at the top of this page.
NAR false teaching: John and Lisa’s false teaching can be observed in the many videos linked under “Yoking in Ministry with Other False Teachers”. They teach a lot about so-called prophecy and extra-biblical revelation.
Preaching to men: Lisa can be observed preaching to men in most of the videos linked under “Yoking in Ministry with Other False Teachers”. Her speaking engagement calendar boasts a number of dates when she is preaching the Sunday services at various churches.
Lisa also advocates for women preaching/pastoring in her book Without Rival.
In her article, Women: The Great Commission is Your Permission, you can watch Lisa mercilessly twist Acts 4 and the Great Commission (from The Message, no less) in an attempt to make Scripture endorse women preaching. She even goes so far as to compare Christians who rightly understand that Scripture prohibits women from preaching to the council of Pharisees and Sadducees who imprisoned and “threatened” the apostles (and in the very next chapter, beat them) for preaching the gospel:
For more than two millennia religious leaders have limited and at times prohibited thousands of the church’s daughters from preaching and teaching in the sacred spaces under its governance. Read Acts 4:18 again: So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. As I pondered this verse, I heard the Holy Spirit whisper, “Far too many of the daughters I called and gifted by my Spirit for ministry have been held back and denied their call by the church.” You might have heard religious leaders say, “Women can teach other women but not men.” Or, “Women can share, but there is to be no preaching.” And: “Women can lead, as long as it is outside the church.” These veiled threats appear to be more reasonable, but the result is the same: the gospel is contained…Yet the question before us is the same one raised by Peter and John. Is it right in the sight of God to listen to men rather than to obey God?
“Missions”: John and Lisa have a missions organization called Messenger International, through which they spread their heresy all over the world. Notice the word “resources” in the image below. It doesn’t mean “trustworthy translations of the Bible”. It means their own books.:
The Passion “Translation” is not a translation at all, but more like an NAR fanfic of the Bible, or the NAR’s dangerous and twisted re-write of the Bible. The Beveres not only frequently quote and teach from TPT (and The Message – also not a translation of the Bible, but an error-laden paraphrase from another false teacher), they wrote a hearty endorsement on the TPT website (right alongside some of the worst of the worst NAR heretics alive today: Bill Johnson, Bobbie Houston, Lou Engle, James Goll, Patricia King, Heidi Baker, Banning Liebscher, Che Ahn, Chuck Pierce, Lana Vawser, and Bianca Olthoff.)
John also wrote a devotion for the TPT blog, and Lisa wrote two. And John and Lisa have both gushed over TPT on social media.
Yoking in Ministry with Other False Teachers
John and Lisa associate and partner in ministry almost exclusively with some of the worst of the worst false teachers. Here are just a handful of hundreds of examples:
Benny Hinn (NAR, faith healer):
Early in his ministry, John served in various pastoral capacities under his pastor, Benny Hinn. Because this was in the 1980’s-90’s (pre-Internet), and because John has attempted to distance himself from this fact, there appears not to be any hard online proof (links, pictures, screenshots, etc.) readily available, but it is common knowledge and can be researched offline.
John has preached at Hillsong multiple times: “What a great night at @hillsong Church. I’m always amazed at the health of this church. @brianchouston and @bobbiehouston what an amazing job you’ve done in leading this global church. Lisa and I are honored to be your friends.”
A who’s who of false teachers and heretics have written endorsements for Lisa’s books. Just one example: Without Rival carries written endorsements from: “Pastor” Holly Wagner, Chris Hodges, Sheila Walsh, “Pastor” Caroline Barnett, “Pastor” Charlotte Gambill, “Pastors” Steven and Holly Furtick, “Pastor” Victoria Osteen, Kris Vallotton, James Robison, Jenn Johnson, Sarah Bessey, Lisa Harper, “Pastors” Brian and Bobbie Houston, Jentezen Franklin, Christine Caine, and Mark Batterson.
