Does anyone know what Gather25 is about? Is it similar to IF:Gathering?
This past weekend was IF:Gathering 2024. I shared my article about it on social media and one of my followers asked this question. I’m glad she did so I could give you a heads up and so you can have a whole year to warn your church and your friends away from it.
According to its website, Gather25 is a 25 hour global simulcast of “prayer, worship, repentance, and commissioning” (i.e. sending people out under the auspices of the Great Commission, ostensibly, to share the gospel) which will take place in March 2025.
“Gather25 is being organized and led by an alliance of Christian organizations: IF:Gathering, YouVersion, illumiNations, Right Now Media, and many more international ministries and churches. The original vision for Gather25 was cast by Jennie Allen.”
Jennie Allen is a false teacher and founder of IF:Gathering, an annual conference for evangelical women (and, no doubt, some men) which routinely platforms false teachers, women pastors, and women who preach to men.
YouVersion is hosted by Craig Groeschel’s LifeChurch.TV. He is a false teacher and platforms many other false teachers and women who preach to men.
illumiNations seems to be a Bible translation and distribution organization, which may be just fine, but I’m concerned that all of the evangelical celebrities they currently and proudly list on their home page as supporting their organization (Elevation Worship, Lecrae, Sadie Huff, Passion, IF:Gathering, MVMNT Conference, and Chris Tomlin) are false/woke teachers, or conferences and individuals that platform false/woke teachers.
And these are just the four organizations mentioned by name on the FAQ page. There are many more sponsors, and the ones I’m familiar with are all doctrinally unsound and/or run by false teachers. This thing is absolutely saturated with false teachers.
This event is going to sucker in a lot of undiscerning pastors, because, “What could possibly be wrong with prayer, worship, repentance, and commissioning people to share the gospel? We can just set aside the ‘secondary issue’ differences we have with these people and join them.”. But Scripture forbids us from having anything to do with false teachers. And if your pastor invites these false teachers into your church via simulcast, he is disqualified from the ministry. Titus 1:9 is part of the biblical qualifications for pastors and elders:
He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
Titus 1:9
Furthermore, what sort of false gospel might these false teachers be “commissioning” people to spread? What sort of unbiblical prayer and worship practices will they lead participants in? What is the definition of “repentance” these false teachers hold to? Will they lead participants to “repent” of things like “whiteness,” refusing to baptize practicing homosexuals, oppressing women by not allowing them to be pastors, and such?
If you think your pastor might be the type to have your church participate in this event, I would recommend you start praying now, start preparing now, and prayerfully consider whether or not you should warn him about Gather25 now so that he has plenty of time to be obedient to the Titus 1:9 mandate the Lord has given him.
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Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you–unless indeed you fail the test?
2 Corinthians 13:5
Remember the story of the ugly duckling? Somehow a swan’s egg finds its way to a duck’s nest and hatches right along with all the other ducklings. The swan chick is similar in appearance to the ducklings, but it quickly becomes obvious to all that there’s something different about him. The swan chick is convinced that he is a duck. He tries to walk like a duck, quack like a duck– but it doesn’t work. He can’t figure out what’s wrong with him.
The problem is, the swan chick wasn’t, in fact, a duck. He might have lived with a duck family. He might have even learned how to imitate the sounds, habits, and mannerisms of ducks, but sometimes, even though it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck– it isn’t a duck.
Sometimes, even though it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck– it isn’t a duck. Sadly, this is scenario taking place in many churches. There are swans among us who think they are ducks.
Sadly, we have the very same scenario taking place in our churches. There are swans among us who think they are ducks. They walk like ducks, quack like ducks, sometimes we’ve even told them they are ducks. Unlike the duck siblings in the story of the ugly duckling, we don’t, as a rule, pick at them and tease them mercilessly. We love them, accept them, and assume they are Believers. Some swans look and sound an awful lot like ducks.
But the fact of the matter is, many – maybe even most – of the people you sit next to in church on Sunday morning are not Believers. They have never been genuinely converted to Christ and become new creatures. Some of them know this consciously about themselves and are just trying to fake their way through because church attendance looks good on a resume or in the eyes of their family and friends. But there are untold thousands who have been deceived into thinking they are saved when, in fact, they are not. Could you be one of them?
There are untold thousands who have been deceived into thinking they are saved when, in fact, they are not. Could you be one of them?
Most of us grew up during a time when there was great pressure on churches to “get the decision” and up their baptism numbers. Somehow, this is what evangelism was boiled down to. The pressure started with the higher ups in the denomination and was passed down to individual pastors, who, in turn, passed the pressure on to their church members. Frankly, this dynamic hasn’t waned much and is still going strong today.
As a result, the Gospel presentation Jesus preached – we must repent (Luke 5:32), deny ourselves, take up our crosses daily (Luke 9:23), forsake all else (Luke 14:26), even lose our lives for the Gospel (Mark 8:35) – got watered down and redesigned into the easy believism of, “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life,” and, “Don’t you want to go to heaven when you die?” Let’s face it, in this culture, dying to self and turning your back on everything that’s comfortable and convenient isn’t an easy sell.
(And if you’ve never heard the truth of the Gospel – that you are guilty of breaking God’s laws, and that God will punish your lawbreaking with an eternity in hell unless you turn away from your sin and place your faith in the fact that Jesus’ death on the cross satisfied God’s wrath against you – please take a few minutes to examine these materials carefully and prayerfully, and learn how you can be saved.)
Folks, I don’t care what Rob Bell or any of the other wolves in shepherd’s clothing tell you, Jesus himself said that “the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:13-14)
So how can you tell whether you’ve found that narrow way that leads to life, or if you’re just one of the many who has been deceived? Don’t bet your salvation on church attendance or service, your own personal “goodness” or even the fact that you recited a “sinner’s prayer” and someone told you that if you “really meant it in your heart,” you were saved. And certainly, don’t wait until you stand before Jesus when you die to find out (Matthew 7:21-23).
Test yourself. Examine yourself. The proof that you’re saved is not simply that you once said a prayer and invited Jesus into your heart. The proof is in the fruit of your life, right now – today.
Test yourself. Examine yourself. The proof that you’re saved is not simply that you once said a prayer and invited Jesus into your heart. The proof is in the fruit of your life, right now – today. Jesus said,
You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
Matthew 7:16-17
What does the fruit of a genuine Believer look like? The MacArthur Study Bible1 has a great tool you can use for examining yourself. Find a quiet time and place with no distractions, and prayerfully and honestly go over this list with the Lord. Don’t trust your own opinion of your fruit, ask God to reveal to you what He thinks.
I. Evidences that neither prove nor disprove one’s faith:
“If list I is true of a person and list II is false or non-evident, then there could be cause to question the validity of one’s profession of faith. If list II is true of a person, then list I will be true as well.“
Are you really saved? Are you sure? This test isn’t graded on a curve.
Are you really saved? Are you sure? This test isn’t graded on a curve.
“You’re just a bunch of Boomers with a pessimistic eschatology!”
It’s been going on for months on X (the artist formerly known as Twitter). The post-mil “We’re sick of the depravity in America. Let’s build a biblical society” Christian Nationalists against the pre/a-mil “Preaching the gospel is the only way you get a biblical society, and the signs of the time seem to indicate that that biblical society is not going to happen before Christ’s return” tribe.
Is it
“Change the structure and you’ll have an environment conducive to changing hearts.”
or is it
“The only way to truly change the structure is for people’s hearts to change first.”?
Yes. No. Both. And at this point, I’m tempted to add, “Who cares?”.
If you opened this article looking forward to finding out which side of this argument I take, I’m afraid you’re going to be disappointed. I’m not on either side. I’m on the third side of the argument, which is to stop arguingabout it regardless of which side you’re on.
I have friends and loved ones – good, solid, doctrinally sound brothers and sisters – on both sides of the argument. I’m sick of the tension. Sick of each side treating the other like the enemy, idiots, traitors, slanderers. Sick of feeling forced to choose sides. And I’m not going to do it. And I don’t think I’m alone in this “third way”. Not by a long shot.
I have to wonder, were there variegated incarnational theology streams in Israel prior to Christ’s first coming? Did they sit around in the city gate arguing about how much longer it would take for the Messiah to get here? His station in life? The exact timing, order, and nature of the way He would set His people free? Exactly how He would accomplish all of that?
Maybe there were, and maybe they did. And how many of them do you think got all of the details exactly right? My guess is zero. And even if there was some champ of an Israelite who managed to accurately predict exactly how, and in what order everything related to Jesus’ first coming would happen, what did he win? We certainly don’t see God giving him a trophy, or “I told you so” rights, or even mentioning his name and his amazing feat anywhere in Scripture.
Arguing over Christ’s second coming is no less folly.
Can you hold an eschatological position? Sure! Study the Word like there’s no tomorrow. Draw biblical conclusions. Knock yourself out. But at the end of the day, the most any of us can say is, “Based on my best good faith reading of Scripture, I think it’s going to happen like this…”. If God has veiled from our eyes something as simple as the day and hour of Christ’s return, is it not arrogance to think we’ve got all the more complex details figured out definitively?
Nobody knows with 100% certainty exactly how it’s going to happen, brothers and sisters. And we all need to humble ourselves, admit that, and stop beating each other over the head with our educated guesses.
How? There’s just one very simple, very biblical step.
Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring.
And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.”’ But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you…’
This is the day that the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it.
You can probably think of other verses and stories that fit this biblical motif of trusting and obeying God today and not fretting about the future.
The dailymanna was actually a test of Israel’s obedience and trust in God on a daily basis. If they gathered more than they needed for that day, they failed the test and God disciplined their disobedience.
Only for the Sabbath were they allowed to look to the future and gather manna one day in advance.
It’s not an accident that “Your Kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven,” is immediately followed by “Give us this day our daily bread.”.
“Tomorrow will be anxious for itself.”
Want to stop arguing about Christian Nationalism? Get up every day, love the Lord, and walk in obedience to Him in whatever He gives you to do that day. God opens up an opportunity for you to run for office? Go for it. You have a chance to share the gospel with someone? Do it. Pray. Work. Worship. Study the Word. Love and serve your family and your church.
Stop trying to figure out the next five or five thousand years. Live faithfully today, and glorify God to the best of your ability.
And get up tomorrow and do it all over again.
Stop trying to figure out the next five or five thousand years. Live faithfully today, and glorify God to the best of your ability. And get up tomorrow and do it all over again.
Forgiving (or refusing to forgive) others as it relates to our salvation is such an important issue. I’m so glad you asked!
Let’s break this question down a bit.
Can you lose your salvation?
The first thing we need to tackle is whether or not someone whom Christ has genuinely saved can lose her salvation – for unforgiveness or any other reason. And the answer to that question is no.
Why? The short answer is that if God saves someone, and that person can subsequently “unsave” herself, that makes her more powerful than God, which, as we know, can’t happen. You can’t save yourself, and you can’t unsave yourself. Salvation is all of God.
You can’t save yourself, and you can’t unsave yourself. Salvation is all of God.
When God saves you, you are His new creation in Christ. You can’t “uncreate” your new spiritual life any more than you can “uncreate” your body, or a tree, or a planet. You can kill or do damage to those things, but you cannot reverse God’s creative process. To use another example, oh so relevant to today, God created you female. You can mutilate your body til kingdom come trying to appear male, but that will not change the fact that at your genetic level – the very essence of your being – you are female. And you can’t undo that because God created you that way, and you’re not more powerful than God. If you can’t even change God’s creation of your physical body, how in the world can you change God’s creation of your spiritual being?
The moment God saves you, He forgives all your sins, past, present, and future, and robes you in the righteousness of Christ.
In addition to the fact that you can’t uncreate the new creature God has created you to be, you need to remember that the moment God saves you, He forgives all your sins, past, present, and future, and robes you in the righteousness of Christ. That swear word you’re going to say next week? Already forgiven. That lie you’re going to tell five years from now? Already forgiven. And if you decide to commit the sin of refusing to forgive someone, that sin has already been forgiven too. (So since all our sins are already forgiven, we can just commit as much sin as we want and we don’t have to worry about it, right? Wrong.) We still need to confess those sins to God and be cleansed from them because they disrupt our fellowship with God, but in His accounting office, that sin debt has already been marked “paid in full”.
Furthermore, Jesus tells us plainly that if He’s got you, He’s got you:
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”
No one. That includes you and your sin. The power of your sin is not greater than God’s power to forgive that sin.
The power of your sin is not greater than God’s power to forgive that sin.
They will never perish. To say that a person about which Jesus Himself has said, “I give them eternal life,” can lose her salvation is to call Jesus a liar. He says that person “will never perish.” End of story.
Still not convinced that someone whom Christ has genuinely saved can’t lose her salvation? Try these passages on for size.
Now the reason it can look to us like someone can lose her salvation comes from two places: experience and misunderstanding the Bible.
The reason it can look to us like someone can lose her salvation comes from two places: experience and misunderstanding the Bible.
Experience: It’s happened plenty of times in the past, but in the last few weeks, we’ve seen two high profile evangelicals “walk away from the faith,”: Joshua Harris and Marty Sampson. Maybe you know someone personally – a friend, a loved one, even a pastor – who gave every appearance of being a Christian and then suddenly left Christianity, and the church, behind.
How does this compute when the Bible teaches that genuinely born again Christians cannot lose their salvation? Well, we need to remember something else the Bible teaches that’s very important:
Not everyone who claims to be a Christian actually is one.
Some people consciously know they’re not really saved and are just trying to pull the wool over the eyes of others. But many (my guess is “most” – these days there’s not a lot of social cachet in calling yourself a Christian) are deceived into believing they’re saved. Maybe they heard some sort of unbiblical gospel presentation and have put their faith in a decision they made in response. Maybe they just assume they’re saved because they’re good church-going people and their church doesn’t teach them otherwise. Who knows? It could be a lot of things. But we know for sure that there are many people who call themselves Christians and believe they are Christians who aren’t. Why? Because the Bible says so:
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ Matthew 7:21-23
“Many will say”…False converts are common, not few and far between. And it’s not just your average Joe or Jane in the pew, either. People who “prophesy…cast out demons…do mighty works” under the auspices of Christianity? They’re pastors, elders, deacons, Bible study teachers, seminary professors, “Christian” authors, evangelical celebrities. And Christ does not know them, because they don’t know Him. They talk the talk, and might even look like they walk the walk, but they’ve never truly believed the biblical gospel, repented of their sin, and trusted the Jesus of Scripture to save them. First John 2:18-19 puts it this way:
Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us.
People whom Jesus has genuinely saved may fall into sin for a season, but they do not fall away from the faith. Those who leave the faith were never part of it in the first place, despite appearances or their claims to the contrary. It might be difficult, but this is one of those occasions when we have to believe what Scripture says over what we can see.
Those who leave the faith were never part of it in the first place, despite appearances or their claims to the contrary.
Jesus also tells us in the parable of the sower that there will be be “rocky ground” folks who will appear to be Christians, but because they have no root, they “endure for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately they fall away.” Jesus follows up this parable with the parable of the wheat and tares which further drives home His point that there will be impostors in the visible church.
So even though we observe people who appear to be Christians “falling away from the faith,” through unforgiveness or any other sin, we know that what’s really happening is that a lost person got tired of pretending to be saved and went back to being a lost person. Second Peter 2:22 puts it this way:
What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”
If Christ has never fundamentally changed your spiritual nature from dog or pig into a new creature in Christ, you’re still a dog or a pig. And even if you manage to clean up on the outside you’ll eventually return to the vomit of being a dog and the mud of being a pig because that’s your nature.
Misunderstood Scripture There are passages in the Bible that, when misunderstood, when taken out of their immediate context, or when taken out of the overall context of Scripture can seem to teach that a person can lose her salvation. But as we’ve seen, there are way too many rightly handled, in context passages of Scripture that refute that idea.
Can you lose your salvation by refusing to forgive someone?
You mentioned in your original question that you believe unforgiveness can cause someone to lose her salvation because, “It is so clear in so many ways in Scripture, even parables that Jesus told.” But, you did not mention any of the Scriptures you think teach this. My guess is that one of the Scriptures you’re thinking of is Matthew 6:14-15:
For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
In context, we can see that these two verses come at the end of the Lord’s Prayer. In verse 12, Jesus has just taught us to pray that God would “forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors,” and He’s giving us a little addendum on this in 14-15.
Remember, even though all our sins from birth to death were forgiven at the moment of our salvation, we still need to confess our sins in prayer and ask God to cleanse us from our wrongdoing to bring us back into right fellowship with Him. But if you’re willfully in the middle of committing the sin of unforgiveness against someone, you’re still actively sinning. You haven’t turned from that sin in order to be cleansed. You’re essentially rolling around in the mud and asking God to cleanse you while you have no intention of getting out of the mud. How is that supposed to work? It doesn’t make any sense. If you want to get cleaned up (“forgiven”), you have to get out of the mud (stop committing the sin of unforgiveness – “forgive”). Otherwise, you’re asking God to restore the fellowship you’re still actively damaging with your sin.
Another passage you might be thinking of is the parable of the unforgiving servant. The takeaway from this passage is not that God will rescind the salvation of Christians who commit the sin of unforgiveness. This passage doesn’t say that and we already know that idea conflicts with what Scripture teaches about the security of the Believer.
The takeaway from this passage is that God has forgiven us a sin debt that is incomprehensible. Knowing and having experienced that forgiveness, how could we not forgive some paltry little sin another human commits against us? First John 4:19 says, “We love because He first loved us,” and the way He loved us was to forgive us our sin. So we also forgive because He first forgave us. And if we can giddily and unrepentantly harbor unforgiveness in our hearts against someone else, we’d better start testing ourselves against Scripture to see if we’re really in the faith. Because that kind of unforgiveness is not the fruit of a redeemed life, it’s the fruit of someone who’s unsaved.
No, a genuinely regenerated Christian cannot lose her salvation by committing the sin of unforgiveness. But if she is genuinely regenerated, she will repent of that sin and forgive.
A genuinely regenerated Christian cannot lose her salvation by committing the sin of unforgiveness. But if she *is* genuinely regenerated, she will repent of that sin and forgive.
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I get lots of questions about particular authors, pastors, and Bible teachers, and whether or not I recommend them. Some of the best known can be found above at my Popular False Teachers tab. The teacher below is someone I’ve been asked about recently, so I’ve done a quick check (this is brief research, not exhaustive) on him.
Generally speaking, in order for me to recommend a teacher, speaker, or author, he or she has to meet three criteria:
a) A female teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly preach to or teach men in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual).
b) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers. This is a violation of Scripture.
c) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be teaching false doctrine.
I am not very familiar with most of the teachers I’m asked about (there are so many out there!) and have not had the opportunity to examine their writings or hear them speak, so most of the “quick checking” I do involves items a and b (although in order to partner with false teachers (b) it is reasonable to assume their doctrine is acceptable to the false teacher and that they are not teaching anything that would conflict with the false teacher’s doctrine). Partnering with false teachers and women preaching to men are each sufficient biblical reasons not to follow a pastor, teacher, or author, or use his/her materials.
Just to be clear, “not recommended” is a spectrum. On one end of this spectrum are people like Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth and Kay Arthur. These are people I would not label as false teachers because their doctrine is generally sound, but because of some red flags I’m seeing with them, you won’t find me proactively endorsing them or suggesting them as a good resource, either. There are better people you could be listening to. On the other end of the spectrum are people like Joyce Meyer and Rachel Held Evans- complete heretics whose teachings, if believed, might lead you to an eternity in Hell. Most of the teachers I review fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum (leaning toward the latter).
If you’d like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click the Recommended Bible Teachers tab at the top of this page.
Alistair Begg Not Recommended I do not consider Alistair Begg to be a false teacher at this time.
photo courtesy of Truth For Life on Facebook
“Alistair Begg has been in pastoral ministry since 1975. Following graduation from The London School of Theology, he served eight years in Scotland at both Charlotte Chapel in Edinburgh and Hamilton Baptist Church. In 1983, he became the senior pastor at Parkside Church near Cleveland, Ohio. He has written several books and is heard daily and weekly on the radio program, Truth For Life.”
Alistair Begg has a long and solid history as a doctrinally sound pastor and Bible teacher. Until a few years ago, he was one of the featured teachers at my Recommended Bible Teachers page. I was pleased and happy to recommend him to my followers as a trustworthy teacher of Scripture.
Unfortunately, in mid- to late 2022, one of my followers made me aware of a 2019 sermon Begg had preached in which he endorsed the idea of a woman preaching or teaching the Sunday morning message in church (in other words, preaching/teaching to men) as long as she has been invited and given permission to do so by the pastor and elders. Begg has invited and permitted at least one woman to do this at his own church. This is unbiblical.
It was the second (see below) significant red flag with Begg that I had become aware of, and I was disappointed to have to remove him from my list of recommended teachers. But, having removed other teachers for similar things, I felt that in order to be fair and consistent about who I recommend, it had to be done.
Listen as Begg explains in his own words in this sermon (starting around 30:12) on 1 Timothy 2:9-15b. (I would encourage you to listen to the whole sermon – in which he says many good things – for context.)
Transcript of relevant portion, beginning at 30:50:
“…One of the chestnuts that always comes up says, “Well you did that thing on 1 Timothy 2 and then you had Helen Roseveare here come to the church. Nananananana. And she spoke on a Sunday morning, and she’s not allowed to speak on Sunday mornings because of first Timothy.”
Yes, she’s allowed to speak on Sunday mornings if the elders determined that we’d like her to. She’s not going to speak as the pastor and the teacher. She is not going to speak in a position of rule and authority, but she has something to say and we’d like to hear it.
There are women who have unique abilities in relationship to, for example, dealing with bereavement. And if that woman has something to share with a fellowship in the context of the Lord’s Day worship then she can come and share it providing it does not negate all that we have said.
In other words, loved ones, we can’t take a principle and make a law out of it. And legalists always make laws out of principles.“
Again, this is unbiblical. When God says no – especially in a pastoral epistle like 1 Timothy, instructing pastors about how to run God’s church – no pastor has the right to say yes. Pastors have no right to give anyone permission to sin. Alistair Begg’s personal opinion that a woman who speaks in his church is not speaking “as the pastor and the teacher” or “in a position of rule and authority” is not the deciding factor here. God has commanded pastors that women are not to pastor, preach, teach the Scriptures to men, or exercise authority over men in the gathering of the Body. And when God tells us not to do something and we do it anyway because “we’d like her to” or “we’d like to hear it,” that is sin.
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1 Timothy 2:12
Furthermore, it is not “legalistic” (as Begg unbiblically judged those who apparently took him to task at the time) to boldly declare that Christians must obey any rightly handled, in context command of Scripture. Begg can call 1 Timothy 2:12 a law, a principle, or whatever he wants, it doesn’t change the fact that God said, “Don’t do it,” and Begg said, “I want to, so I’m going to.”.
Several questions have arisen about Helen Roseveare: whether or not she was a missionary, the content of what she said at Begg’s church, and the possibility that she may have been giving a personal testimony.
None of that matters as it pertains to the issue at hand. The red flag is what Beggsaid about it in his sermon, which I’ve just addressed.
Prior to my follower making me aware of the incident above, the first red flagI was (already) aware of also happened in 2019, just a couple of months after the incident above. Alistair Begg announced that he would be speaking at Baylor University’s National Preaching Conference, sharing the stage with Beth Moore (also Tony Evans and others), much to the chagrin of and numerous protests from his followers. In response to a follower who expressed concern, a statement1 from Begg’s ministry indicated that he accepted the invitation to speak without knowing who any of the other speakers were. Rather than going to the organizers and explaining that he could not share the stage with:
false teachers (Tony Evans and Beth Moore),
a woman who preaches to men (Beth Moore),
a woman “pastor” (Mary Hulst),
and that he could not speak at a conference at which pastors and future pastors -men- were being instructed in pastoring by two women – sanctioned by the seminary and voluntarily attended by these men – Begg kept the speaking engagement.
I did not remove Begg from my recommends at the time of the Baylor incident because I was hoping it was a one time goof that would teach him to use greater wisdom and discernment in the future. We all do dumb things from time to time, and well known pastors are no exception.
The Baylor incident following so quickly on the heels of the “women preaching incident” (above), was troublesome. And Begg’s statements in the women preaching incident are not a one time lapse in judgment. They are the well thought out, planned, and implemented policy of the church he pastors.
Once might be an “oopsie”. Twice was the beginning of a pattern of Begg doing or saying unbiblical things and then either doubling down, or lashing out, or both at those who tried to biblically correct him.
In this September 2023 episode of Truth for Life entitled The Christian Manifesto (an interview with Begg about his recently released book by the same title), he explains how a grandmother wrote to him asking for counsel about whether or not to attend her grandson’s “wedding” to a trans-gender person. With seemingly no qualms whatsoever, he advised her that, as long as her grandson knew she didn’t approve, she should not only attend the wedding but take a gift as well. In Begg’s reasoning, refusing to attend the “wedding” would just reinforce the grandson’s opinion that Christians are mean, unloving, etc. Ironically, he then immediately quoted James 3:1.
Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
Transcript of relevant portion, beginning at 28:45:
“…we field questions all the time that go along the lines of my grandson is about to be married to a transgender person and I don’t know what to do about this, and I’m calling to ask you to tell me what to do. Which is a huge responsibility.
And in a conversation like that just a few days ago – and people may not like this answer – but I asked I asked the grandmother, “Does your grandson understand your belief in Jesus?”
“Yes.”
“Does your grandson understand that your belief in Jesus makes it such that you can’t countenance in any affirming way the choices that he has made in life?”
“Yes.”
I said, “Well then, okay, as long as he knows that then I suggest that you do go to the ceremony, and I suggest that you buy them a gift.”
“Oh!” she said. She was caught off guard. I said, “Well here’s the thing, your love for them may catch them off guard. But your absence will simply reinforce the fact that they said these people are what I always thought: judgmental, critical, unprepared to countenance anything.”
And it is a fine line isn’t it? It really is, and people need to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. But I think we’re going to take that risk, we’re going to have to take that risk a lot more if we want to build bridges into the hearts and lives of those who don’t understand Jesus and and don’t understand that he is a king.
This is pastoral malpractice, and is the very reason God included James 3:1 in His Word. Our personal opinions about someone’s anticipated reaction is not what governs our actions as Christians – Scripture does. We are to obey Scripture regardless of what we think the outcome will be. And in this case Scripture tells us:
Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. Hebrews 13:4
We’re not to be ashamed of the gospel – a major component of which is “the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men” (Romans 1:16-18) – rather, we’re to be willing to shed our own blood for obedience to Scripture (Hebrews 12:4). Compromising with sin is one form of being ashamed of the gospel.
Jesus did not come to bring peace between pagans and Christians, but a sword, and anyone who puts loyalty to family ahead of loyalty to Jesus and His Word is not worthy of Him: I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:34-39
If even pagans aren’t to give approval to sin, how much less are Christians to give approval to sin? Romans 1:32
are not those who eat the sacrifices participants in the altar?… I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. 1 Corinthians 10:18-21
Do not…take part in the sins of others; 1 Timothy 5:22
He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the Lord. Proverbs 17:15
Anyone, pagan or Christian, who knows anything about weddings (and Begg, a pastor who performs them, certainly should) can tell you that by being a non-objecting witness at a wedding, you are making the statement that you support and approve of the union. Why would any pastor suborn the sin of hypocrisy by encouraging a Christian to express disapproval of the union and then turn right around and demonstrate support for the union by joyfully attending the “wedding” with a gift? And, in the future, how is the grandmother, when sharing the gospel with her grandson, to call her grandson to repent of his sin when she has already approved of its codification by attending his “wedding”? More hypocrisy!
Furthermore, though the grandson may know of the grandmother’s biblical disapproval, does his “intended” know? Does the rest of the wedding party, the officiant, and all of the other guests know? Do all of her friends who know she’s attending the wedding know? To all of them, many of whom will know she’s a professing Christian, her attendance means she approves of the “marriage”. (All of these are also reasons Christians don’t attend homosexual “weddings”.)
Shortly after the video above went viral in late January 2024, American Family Radio, which carries Begg’s Truth for Life program on 1800 radio stations, contacted TFL leadership to plead with Begg to repent. He doubled down on his position, and AFR made the decision to stop carrying TFL.
A few days later, in his sermon at church, Begg addressed the backlash and calls to repentance he had received by saying he had no intention of repenting and had nothing to repent of. He then proceeded to cast those who decried his unbiblical advice to the grandmother as “Pharisees” and the older brother in Luke’s account of the prodigal son.
Begg was subsequently disinvited from speaking at the 2024 Shepherds Conference, and TFL was dropped from (Ligonier’s) RefNet’s lineup.
For more details and links regarding this incident, please listen to Talk Back: Alistair Begg at A Word Fitly Spoken, and check the show notes for more links.
Alistair Begg is not a new Christian or a young pastor who made a rookie mistake. This question should be a no-brainer for any Christian, let alone a seasoned pastor with many decades of experience and a world-wide public ministry. Counseling a sheep to base her behavior on a sinner’s opinions and feelings rather than to submit to and obey God’s clear Word, refusal to repent when corrected, and mishandling God’s Word belies a foundational problem with his theology as do his aforementioned errors. And because of that, I believe we will continue to see Begg make these kinds of blatant errors in the future.
In September of 2024, about nine months after the scandal broke regarding his advice to the grandmother, Alistair Begg announced that he would be retiring as pastor of Parkside Church. June 8, 2025 was his last day as pastor, but he remains active at Truth for Life and continues to speak at various venues.
I’m not saying Begg is a heretic on par with Benny Hinn or Kenneth Copeland. Far from it. I don’t even consider him to be a false teacher at this time. I just no longer feel comfortable saying, “Hey, this is a great teacher. I recommend that you follow him,” (i.e. putting him on my list of recommended teachers) when there are others I decline to recommend who also unrepentantly hold the same or similar erroneous positions.
Earlier in the “women preaching” sermon Begg humbly admits (as should every good pastor) that he and his church don’t claim to have everything right, but that they will continue to grow in Christ and make corrections. If and when he corrects his errors (and any others that might come to light), and publicly repents, I’ll be delighted to reconsider him for inclusion on my Recommended Teachers list. Until that time, however, I cannot recommend that you follow him.
1This is not a website I endorse. It is linked only as evidence of the statements in this paragraph.
