Every year, in early January, I receive and answer a lot of questions about whether or not Tara Leigh Cobble and/or The Bible Recap are doctrinally sound, and whether or not I recommend them. The short answer is NO. Keep reading for a re-post of the longer answer (which can always be found at the Popular False Teachers & Unbiblical Trends tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page).
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I get lots of questions about particular authors, pastors, and Bible teachers, and whether or not I recommend them. Some of the best known can be found above at my Popular False Teachers tab. The teacher below is someone I’ve been asked about recently, so I’ve done a quick check (this is brief research, not exhaustive) on her.
Generally speaking, in order for me to recommend a teacher, speaker, or author, he or she has to meet three criteria:
a) A female teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly preach to or teach men in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual).
b) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers. This is a violation of Scripture.
c) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be teaching false doctrine.
I am not very familiar with most of the teachers I’m asked about (there are so many out there!) and have not had the opportunity to examine their writings or hear them speak, so most of the “quick checking” I do involves items a and b (although in order to partner with false teachers (b) it is reasonable to assume their doctrine is acceptable to the false teacher and that they are not teaching anything that would conflict with the false teacher’s doctrine). Partnering with false teachers and women preaching to men are each sufficient biblical reasons not to follow a pastor, teacher, or author, or use his/her materials.
Just to be clear, “not recommended” is a spectrum. On one end of this spectrum are people like Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth and Kay Arthur. These are people I would not label as false teachers because their doctrine is generally sound, but because of some red flags I’m seeing with them, you won’t find me proactively endorsing them or suggesting them as a good resource, either. There are better people you could be listening to. On the other end of the spectrum are people like Joyce Meyer and Rachel Held Evans- complete heretics whose teachings, if believed, might lead you to an eternity in Hell. Most of the teachers I review fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum (leaning toward the latter).
If you’d like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click the Recommended Bible Teachers tab at the top of this page.
Tara-Leigh Cobble, The Bible Recap, & D-Group Not Recommended
Tara-Leigh Cobble, or “TLC” as she likes to be called, “began her ministry as a singer-songwriter, performing her own songs and leading worship around the globe. After her first book was published, she added speaking to her repertoire. As a musician, writer and speaker, she spent more than a decade touring internationally before creating D-Groups and finding a home and community for herself in Dallas, Texas.”
More from Tara-Leigh’s bio: “I started D-Group (Discipleship Group) [with] a handful of college students in 2009 and it has grown into 250+ groups around the world…I love to speak to audiences about God and His Word, and I’ve written a few books with an aim to point others toward Him through my story as well as their own. I also write and host a daily podcast called The Bible Recap, which aims to keep people connected to reading the Bible when they’re tempted to quit for lack of understanding, as well as a daily radio show called The God Shot.”
In late 2021 / early 2022, requests started flooding in for me to review Tara-Leigh, mainly due to the fact that many were preparing to begin a “read through the Bible in a year” plan in January. They wanted to know if the suddenly popular program, The Bible Recap (TBR) – Tara-Leigh’s brief daily podcast “recapping” each day’s reading in a one-year chronological reading plan – was doctrinally sound and whether or not they should use it. To that end, I began listening to TBR and researching it, Tara-Leigh, and D-Group.
The Bible Recap (TBR)
I listened to about two dozen of the first 60 episodes of the “year 4” TBR season, making notes along the way. In each 5-10 minute episode, Tara-Leigh briefly summarizes that day’s reading and adds a few comments, ending with a “God Shot” – a point from the reading that stood out most to her, personally.
For the most part, I didn’t hear much that was biblically problematic in the TBR episodes I listened to. But someone spending eight minutes basically reiterating the primary facts from a passage of Scripture and getting it mostly right isn’t an automatic indicator that she’s doctrinally sound. False teachers can do that. Atheists can do that. Perfectly doctrinally sound pastors and teachers can do that. People everywhere on the spectrum between those two extremes can do that.
There were several times I thought that the way Tara-Leigh worded something wasn’t necessarily wrong, but also wasn’t as clear or precise as it should have been, and that people who were new to reading the Bible (a significant portion of her target audience) could have easily misunderstood. I didn’t make any notes on those instances because they didn’t rise to the level of false doctrine, and we’ve all had times when we could have worded something better.
I did make some notes on several other points. Here are just a few:
Day 002 episode: “We don’t want to scream where Scripture whispers.“ An unfortunate choice of words, or was she echoing the sentiment from J.D. Greear – “We ought to whisper about what the Bible whispers about and we ought to shout about what it shouts about.” – that Southern Baptists in the know are all too familiar with? (TBR does include resources from Greear.)
“God let Noah know that this was only the beginning of their relationship.“ (Referring to Genesis 6:18). This is probably just a poor choice of words meant to indicate that this was the beginning of the Noahic covenant, or that God was reassuring Noah that he wasn’t going to die, but this is technically incorrect. Noah alreadyhad a relationship with God. That’s indicated by the fact that God had a conversation with Noah in 6:13-22, and it’s also why God found Noah to be the only righteous person on earth.
Day 003 episode: After the flood, the earth was not “muddy and gross“ as Tara-Leigh describes it. Genesis 8:13-14 is clear that the land dried up completely. Furthermore, in the flood, God re-created the earth. It may not have had the holy perfection of Eden since this was post-Fall, but the God who deemed His Creation “good” in Genesis 1 didn’t re-create a chaotic and disheveled world that looked like a natural disaster had just hit it, either.
Day 008 episode: “Are there times when God speaks to us? I believe God’s Spirit does give impressions to His children. After all, one of His names is ‘Guide’…Saying, ‘God told me X,’ carries a lot of certainty with it. I’d be more likely to say it this way, ‘I feel like God was saying X,’ or, ‘I feel like God was impressing this on my heart.’.”
Tara-Leigh is teaching extra-biblical revelation here because she’s a continuationist (more below). Extra-biblical revelation undermines the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture. Of course, God guides us. And the way He guides us is through His all-sufficient written Word, as He tells us Himself. Reading, believing, following, and obeying the written Word God the Holy Spirit breathed out is being led, or “guided,” by God.
Furthermore, all throughout Scripture, when God spoke, there was absolute, stake your life on it certainty. If you weren’t certain it was God speaking to you, you’d better keep your mouth shut or risk execution. If you were certain it was God speaking to you, you’d better open your mouth and boldly proclaim exactly what He said, or risk execution. If the holy God of the universe is speaking to you, you dare not mealy mouth or equivocate. And if He’s not, you dare not say He is. There’s no fence-sitting on this one.
Finally, this “I feel” language again undermines the sufficiency of Scripture, and reinforces an all too common false doctrine in the church: believing, trusting, and obeying our subjective feelings and personal experiences over God’s written Word. And because that is a place and position only Scripture should occupy, that false doctrine, believed and practiced by so many, is idolatry. (Hear me clearly: I’m not saying that Tara-Leigh believes in, practices, or holds to this form of idolatry herself, only that this type of “I feel” language reinforces this sort of idolatry that others cling to.)
Day 043 episode: Tara-Leigh talks about the glory of God filling the tabernacle as a cloud, and the fact that Moses could not go into the tabernacle because of that glory cloud. She says there was a “density“ to God‘s glory, and gives the example that she has never been in a plane that had to fly above a cloud because it could not physically pass through the cloud.
This passage does not mean that God’s glory was a tangibly impassable barrier, like a brick wall. It means that God’s manifest glory was so magnificent and intensely powerful that it was too overwhelming for Moses to go into the tabernacle. It’s possible Tara-Leigh didn’t mean to convey that God’s glory was physically tangible, but I think that’s what most people are going to take away from what she said.
TBR recommends and partners with the YouVersion app. Although many people do not realize that YouVersion was created by and is maintained by false teacher Craig Groeschel’s LifeChurch.tv (it also features devotions and other materials by numerous false teachers), Tara-Leigh apparently does, and has partnered with YouVersion by platforming TBR there:
Tara-Leigh teaches the Bible to men, without reservation, through TBR. It is one thing for a woman to have a Bible teaching program or materials specifically for women available to the public and not be able to control who uses it. It is another thing all together to welcome and encourage men to be taught by a woman, especially in the gathering of the church body. This just validates and encourages the sin of women violating Scripture by teaching men.
TBR frequently features The Bible Project videos and podcast episodes in its episode show notes as supplementary materials, and TBP overviews of each book of the Bible are used exclusively. To be fair, many supplementary materials from doctrinally sound sources are provided, but they’re provided right alongside materials from false and/or problematic sources like Tim Keller (Day O16), Kay Warren (Day 038), J.D. Greear (Days 050, 323, 352), The Village Church (Matt Chandler’s church, Days 125, 291- Sam Alberry, 317), The Gospel Coalition (Days 133- Article: Did David Rape Bathsheba? answer: “David was a rapist.”, 213, 260, 277 & 352- Thabiti Anyabwile, 286, 315, 322, 323, 336, 345, 363) Skye Jethani (341).
D-Group
“D-Group = Discipleship Group. We are men’s and women’s discipleship and Bible study groups that meet weekly in homes around the world.” D-Groups are gender specific and meet for eight sessions of study per year. Each session lasts six weeks and centers around a different book or curriculum. (D-Group is discrete from The Bible Recap, related only by the fact that Tara-Leigh heads up both.)
D-Group exists in three venues: church groups, home groups not connected to churches, and online groups. Commendably, in policy, D-Group requires that participants be members of, or actively seeking membership in a local church, and discourages participants from treating D-Group as a substitute or replacement for the local church…
…but the very fact that it establishes and encourages home groups and online groups not connected to a local church undercuts this commitment in practice. No doubt there are many online and home group members who eschew or are lax about membership in a solid local church, considering D-Group to be their church instead. Indeed, the Why D-Groups page of the website says that one of the results of being involved in a D-Group is: “And those who lack rich relationships with other Christians have found a place of encouragement and challenge.” Although it’s certainly not wrong to be encouraged and challenged by Christian friends outside your local church, the primary “place” this sort of thing should be happening is in the context of your local church. Additionally, group leaders are trained by the D-Group organization, not by the local church. Again, this sort of training should be taking place in the local church and under the authority of the pastors and elders there.
It’s an unbiblical structure and methodology. Discipleship proper is to take place within the context of and under the authority of the local church, not in parachurch ministries or groups, and certainly not in online “groups”. There is no provision, allowance, or instruction for parachurch discipleship in the New Testament. And if D-Group is Reformed, and as committed to “living out the truths revealed by God in Scripture” as they claim to be, they should already know this and work through local churches exclusively.
D-Group holds to continuationism (which explains Tara-Leigh’s aforementioned stance on extra-biblical revelation, and TBR resources from continuationists such as John Piper, The Village Church, etc.), and cites The Village Church’s position paper on continuationism as part of their Beliefs.
D-Group claims to be complementarian, but, apparently, they mean – without clearly saying so – so-called “narrow” or “soft” (essentially: anything goes except women as senior pastors) complementarianism. As I’ve explained in the past, so-called “soft/narrow complementarianism” is not complementarianism, but functional egalitarianism.
Under the Beliefs section of D-Group’s Resources page, two of the resources cited on complementarianism are from The Village Church and Mary Kassian. TVC is where Jen Wilkin, who preaches to men at conferences and other events is on staff as the director of family and student ministries, and where pastor Matt Chandler has publicly praised women who preach to men, like Beth Moore. The short TVC article cited isn’t very substantive, and merely states that they don’t allow women to be elders. I briefly reviewed the Mary Kassian article when it first came out in 2016. Long story short, she believes it’s OK for women to preach to and teach men except in the Sunday worship service (unless it’s Mother’s Day or another special event, then it’s OK).
Tara-Leigh herself preaches to and teaches men in person at her speaking engagements (see below).
D-Group is governed by women. Of the 36 members of D-Group’s “team,” all but four are women. These four men are under the authority of – among other women – founder and CEO Tara-Leigh, of course, as well as a female “Theology + Content Director”. This is not a direct violation of Scripture, since the D-Group organization is not a gathering of the church, but this does align with and point to their “soft complementarianism” posture.
D-Group recommends many of the same false and/or biblically problematic teachers and resources as The Bible Recap, and more:
In the Diversity and Racial Reconciliation section of D-Groups Beliefs page, resources are cited from woke and racialist sources such as Eric Mason, Latasha Morrison’s Be the Bridge, and The Witness, a list of theological works by black theologians and pastors, including Jarvis Williams, Anthony Bradley, Thabiti Anyabwile, and Raphael Warnock, the horrifyingly liberal “pastor” and Democrat senator who endorses the torture and murder of unborn children. (TheWitness also includes a book on homiletics written by a woman.)
The LGBTQIA section includes resources from Living Out founder, Sam Allberry, and Jackie Hill-Perry.
I don’t want to overstate this point, but it’s worth noting. Are worldly terms and constructs like “diversity,” “racial reconciliation,” and “LGBTQIA” congruent with a doctrinally sound Christian ministry? Where does the Bible use these terms or teach such constructs?
Tara-Leigh Cobble
As founder and leader of TBR and D-Group, Tara-Leigh’s theology concerning continuationism, functional egalitarianism, extra-biblical revelation, and social justice issues is evident.
In addition to her organizations holding to a functional egalitarianism position, Tara-Leigh personally teaches men via her speaking engagements.
The following two videos are currently featured on her website’s “Speaking” page, as exemplars of her teaching.
Unfortunately, Tara-Leigh also has an affinity for false teachers and false doctrine.
This is the pinned tweet – the first thing you see – on Tara-Leigh’s Twitter account. Apparently, Beth is a “fan” of TBR and Tara-Leigh “learned approximately 90%” of her Bible teaching from Beth Moore.
Here, she calls Jennie Allen one of her “favorite” leaders.
And since she brought it up in this post, I’d like to address another issue here. Tara-Leigh refers to her own “therapist” and also says, “I can’t think of a teacher/preacher I respect (in modern times) who hasn’t openly talked about seeing a licensed therapist…I believe in it so much that I’ve even paid for therapy for my team members. It’s VITAL.”
While everyone faces difficulties from time to time, and some of those difficulties are intense enough that a time of pastoral or biblical counseling is needed, routine or ongoing “therapy” from a “licensed therapist” (which, in the common vernacular, and at “trauma” events like this one, usually refers to a secular psychiatrist, psychologist, or other mental health professional) is no more “VITAL,” or even indicated, for normal, healthy individuals – even for non-Christians – than a weekly trip to the doctor for someone who isn’t sick.
The idea that Christians, across the board, need to be in therapy on a regular basis as though that’s normal or vital is found nowhere in Scripture, and undermines the Bible’s teaching that Scripture alone is sufficient for life and godliness.
Tara-Leigh’s notes from a “conversation” with “black and white Christian leaders and pastors” about “what the church’s role might look like in the midst of our current civil rights movement.”. You’ll notice the concepts of white privilege, systemic or “covert” racism, that white people need to “just listen,” etc. (Several pages. You’ll need to scroll through.)
Tara-Leigh seems like a very nice person with a sweet heart and genuine motives. She has some good ideas, and I’d like to be able to heartily recommend her to you. But unfortunately, even though she’s much closer to the “Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth / Kay Arthur” end of the spectrum than the “Joyce Meyer / Rachel Held Evans” end of the spectrum that I mentioned in the introduction, I can’t proactively recommend her or any of her ministries or materials to you either. There are better people you could be listening to.
Additional Resources:
☞ Since the original publication of this article, a number of readers have asked if there is a program similar to TBR that takes followers through a chronological Bible reading plan with a daily recap of each day’s reading. I am not aware of any other program or podcast exactly like that, but let me give you a couple of resources.
In 2014, I led my ladies’ Sunday School class through the chronological plan and taught a weekly lesson selected from that week’s reading. If that’s of interest, you can always find those lessons at the Bible Studies tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page (at the very end under “Miscellaneous”).
My friend, Pastor David Schrock, has recorded a podcast for daily readings through the New Testament called Via Emmaus on the Road (also on Spotify and Apple Podcasts). It’s in canonical (Matthew – Revelation) order, but God arranged the New Testament canon much more chronologically than the Old Testament. (Plus, if you want to, you can follow a chronological plan and just look up the podcast for each day’s passage.). (David wants you to know that he plans to re-record the episodes on Matthew to improve the sound editing, but if you listen “as is” the sound does get better after the first month.)
☞ Other readers have said they were listening to TBR, but stopped when something seemed “off” to them. Now, they just use the TBR podcast episode titles to tell them which passage to read for the day. There’s certainly nothing wrong with that, but if you’d like something that’s a little less cumbersome, I’ve got a printable of the entire year’s readings for you. Every year around New Year’s I publish a “round up” of Bible reading plans. The chronological plan is always first on the list because I recommend it so highly. Go to the Bible Studies tab and click on “Bible Reading Plans,” then click the link on #1, and print it, bookmark it, screenshot it, etc.
…so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes. Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ…
Ephesians 4:14-15
Christians who know what discernment is have a variety of perspectives about how it should be practiced. Should we teach about false doctrine at all or just make sure our church is teaching sound doctrine? Should we name the names of false teachers or speak about them anonymously? Should we warn people away from false teachers or just pray for them privately? What’s the biblical precedent for using a stringent tone when speaking of those who teach false doctrine?
Recently, I’ve been thinking a lot about the phrase “speaking the truth in love” from Ephesians 4:15 as it pertains to speaking and writing about false doctrine and false teachers.
Many Christian women have the mistaken idea that “speaking the truth in love” equals being “nice.” We’re always smilingly sweet and never say anything that might hurt someone’s feelings or could rock the boat at church.
Many Christian women have the mistaken idea that “speaking the truth in love” equals being “nice.”
Are we to be kind? Yes. Are we to do our best not to hurt others? Of course. Should we be making waves over every little thing that rubs us the wrong way? Absolutely not. We are to deny ourselves, setting aside our personal preferences and, in many cases, even our own rights, to the point of laying down our lives for others.
We need to understand the distinction between personal preferences and biblical doctrine. We die *to* personal preferences. We die *for* the purity of biblical doctrine.
But we need to understand the distinction between personal preferences and biblical doctrine. And that’s where I think a lot of people get confused. We die to personal preferences. We die for the purity of biblical doctrine. The enemy is stealthily infiltrating and conquering church after church with false doctrine. We are at war. And that’s going to mean ruffling feathers, rocking the boat, and hurting feelings sometimes. Because the full armor of God doesn’t come with a white flag or a pen for signing peace treaties.
The full armor of God doesn’t come with a white flag or a pen for signing peace treaties.
Well, think about the concept and practice of “love.” Love always has an object. We don’t just say, “I love.” We say, “I love my children,” or “I love peanut butter and chocolate ice cream.” Speaking the truth “in love” is not as much about our demeanor or tone of voice as it is about the object of our love. It’s our love for others that compels us to speak biblical truth. And it’s that same love for others that should drive the manner in which we speak the truth.
So when it comes to speaking the truth about false doctrine, how should we be motivated by love? And love for whom?
We love Christ– As Christians, our love for Christ should motivate everything we do. If we’re speaking truth from fleshly motives such as pride, the desire to make a name for ourselves, or the competitive drive to win an argument, everything we say can be 100% factually right and we can still be spiritually in the wrong because the motive of our heart is wrong. God isn’t a debate judge awarding us points for compelling arguments. God weighs the heart.
We love God’s Word– To love Christ is to love the Bible because Scripture is literally God Himself speaking to us. Besides the cleansing of the temple, the passage in which we see Jesus’ righteous anger displayed most clearly is Matthew 23. Here, Jesus delivers a scorching rebuke to the scribes and Pharisees for twisting God’s Word and, in doing so, leading people away from the truth of Scripture. It is only natural for those of us who have the mind of Christ and are indwelt by the Holy Spirit to have that same love for God’s word and feel righteous anger over the maligning of it.
We love the church– To love Christ is also to love His bride, the church. Christ gave his life to cleanse the church “so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.” Seeing Christ’s bride blemished and corrupted by false doctrine should grieve us deeply and motivate us to call the church to be cleansed “by the washing of water with the Word.”
We love the captives– Paul speaks of false teachers “who creep into households and capture weak women.” Often, the women who follow false teachers simply don’t know any better. Though Scripture is clear that they’re complicit in their own captivity, they are casualties and prisoners of war held hostage by the enemy. We are to love them enough to show them the truth of God’s word so that “they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.”
We love the enemy– Every Christian was at one time an enemy of the cross. Every last one of us. Until someone loved us enough to intervene with the truth of the gospel. False teachers – those who, despite biblical correction, unrepentantly teach doctrine which is plainly refuted by Scripture – have made themselves enemies of the cross, even if they call themselves “Christian,” even if they wear the title of “pastor,” even if they’re holding a Bible in their hands and refer to it occasionally as they “teach” us.
In the same way that a loving sister would not turn a blind eye and hope for the best if her sibling began using drugs and became increasingly addicted, it is not loving to stand idly by and allow false teachers to continue to sink deeper and deeper into Satan’s clutches by doing his bidding without making every effort to stop them in order to rescue them.
*It is not loving* to stand idly by and allow false teachers to continue to sink deeper and deeper into Satan’s clutches by doing his bidding without making every effort to stop them in order to rescue them.
Sometimes – just as with the drug abuser – this can be accomplished early on with a private word of correction. And sometimes – as with the addict – more extreme measures of “tough love” and intervention must be employed. But we always love them enough to desire that they come to repentance and embrace the truth.
Our love for these also drives the manner in which we speak truth to them. A good soldier would never deal with a civilian casualty in the same way he would fight off an enemy bent on waging war. Likewise, part of discernment is knowing who the enemy is (and is not) and dealing with people in a biblically appropriate way. This requires humility, wisdom, thorough proficiency with our tools and weapons, unceasing prayer, and complete dependence on and self-crucifying love for our King. We trust in Him and His Word to guide us in the wise and loving way to humbly speak His truth.
Discernment. Speaking truth. What’s love got to do with it?
Everything.
Discernment. Speaking truth. What’s love got to do with it? Everything.
Discernment- it’s a dirty job, but somebody’s gotta do it. While I’m a women’s discipleship blogger rather than a discernment blogger, discernment is part of discipleship. And it’s sorely lacking among Christian women today, which is why it’s regularly featured in my writing.
I’ve been very encouraged by the hundreds of e-mails, messages, and comments I’ve received from women who have turned away from false teachers or helped their loved ones and churches to forsake false doctrine because of something I have written. (I claim absolutely no credit for that. God and His Word get all the glory. He is the one who changes hearts, not me.) It’s such a blessing to hear from so many women who are actively pursuing Christ and the truth of His Word.
Unfortunately, there are also occasional comments and messages from women who are disciples of the false teachers I warn against, who take me to task for doing so. The same unscriptural accusations are raised again and again against me and against others who take a biblical stand against false teachers and false doctrine.
Here, in no particular order, are the most frequently raised objections to my discernment work and my answers to them. Many readers have told me that these same objections have been raised to them when they warn others of false teachers. Please feel free to use this article as a resource if these objections are raised with you.
Amy Spreeman and I recorded a series of A Word Fitly Spoken podcast episodes dealing with each of the items in this article. I’ve included a link to the appropriate episode in each section in case you’d like to listen.
1. Did you contact Ms. Twisted Sister in obedience to Matthew 18:15-20 before publishing this article about her?
No, I have not confronted Ms. Twisted Sister about her false teaching. Here’s why:
a. The Matthew 18 passage does not apply to public false teaching. It is about sin in the local congregation where you actually know the offender personally and have access to him/her. It has to do with correcting sin in the local church and removing the offender from the local church if she refuses to repent. Jesus, Paul, and others refuted public false teaching publicly without following the (again, inapplicable) steps in Matthew 18 many times. D.A. Carson and Randy Alcorn have each written excellent articles further explaining the inapplicability of this passage to public false teaching. The real question is, why hasn’t the teacher’s own pastor placed her under church discipline for teaching men and/or teaching false doctrine?
b. I have no doubt that others have confronted her about these things. Plus, she has a Bible and supposedly knows it well enough to teach it. If so, then she is well aware of what the Bible says about these issues. If not, she does not know the Bible well enough to be teaching (James 3:1).
c. I have attempted plenty of times to contact people like Ms. Twisted Sister. One of two things happens: either I’m ignored altogether, or one of her underlings gets back in touch with me to defend her. It’s a complete waste of time.
d. What if I had contacted Ms. Twisted Sister and she flatly refused to repent of the false doctrine she’s teaching? Would you then be in full support of my article which warns against her? No? Then whether or not I attempted to contact her is not the issue you have with this article, so why bring it up?
2. You say that Ms. Twisted Sister is in disobedience to Scripture because she preaches to men. You’re just as guilty because you have a blog and social media pages that men can read.
All this accusation does is to demonstrate the accuser’s lack of understanding of Scripture and how to correctly study it in context, which are fruits of sitting under the “instruction” of false teachers who don’t train people in proper hermeneutics.
Having a blog in the public square for women that men “trespass” on is not the same thing as intentionally and unrepentantly preaching to men in the church setting as I’ve explained in further detail in this article.
Furthermore, when “trespassing” takes place, who is at fault- the person trespassed upon or the trespasser himself? If a man is improperly receiving biblical instruction from a blog for women the man is the one at fault, not the woman blogger who has no intention of instructing him.
3. But look how many people Ms. Twisted Sister is helping! I’ve grown so much in my relationship with the Lord because of her!
No you haven’t. It is impossible to grow to biblical, Christian maturity by following someone who teaches false doctrine, just like it’s impossible to grow physically healthy by eating a diet of poison. The only kind of growing you can do by following a false teacher is growing away from the Lord, despite what you may think or feel. Second Timothy 3:7 clearly says that those who follow false teachers are “never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.” If it’s impossible for a teacher to lead you to know the truth of Scripture, how in the world is she helping you or anybody else?
False teachers are not “helping” anyone but themselves. Just like the false teachers Paul spoke out against, they are “teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach.”
The size or apparent success of a false teacher’s ministry also does not prove that she is helping people or teaching God’s Word correctly. Jesus always taught biblical truth, and yet we read in John 6 that after one of His teaching sessions, “many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him”. The size of a ministry is not an indicator of whether or not it is biblical.
Finally, the “help” a ministry provides is not an indication that the false teacher is doing what is right in God’s eyes. Did you know that several medical procedures that have helped many people were discovered in World War II concentration camps during torturous experiments on inmates? Does the fact that those medical procedures have helped so many people justify the torture the Nazis inflicted on their victims? The ends do not justify the means, especially in Christianity.
4. You’re creating division and disunity by speaking out against Ms. Twisted Sister.
No, again, this demonstrates a lack of knowledge about what the Bible actually teaches. Scripture is abundantly clear that it is the false teachers, not those speaking out against them, who are creating division and disunity. See Jude 18-19 and Romans 16:17-18.
The solution to this division and disunity is for false teachers to repent of their false doctrine, learn how to rightly handle and teach God’s word, and begin to teach sound doctrine, not for discerning Christians to keep quiet.
5. You’re slandering Ms. Twisted Sister by warning against her.
The dictionary definition of slander is: “to make a false spoken statement that causes people to have a bad opinion of someone.” (So, technically the correct word would be libel when we’re talking about writing, because slander has to do with verbal speech.)
The key word in the definition of slander is “false.” When I demonstrate that someone is a false teacher, I do so by providing ample truthful video, audio, or text evidence of what the person says or does and compare it with what the Bible says. This is not slander. This is similar to what a lawyer does in court when examining someone accused of a crime. The lawyer provides evidence of the accused’s words and behavior and compares it to the law so a judge or jury can decide whether or not the accused is guilty of breaking the law. The fact that you don’t like the verdict doesn’t mean the lawyer is slandering the accused by exposing her own words and behavior.
6. You’re being unkind, unloving, ungodly, divisive, hateful, self-righteous, mean, critical, etc. for calling out false teachers.
Every single book of the New Testament except Philemon warns against false teachers or false doctrine. Jesus called out false teachers. So did Peter, Paul, John, Jude, and other New Testament figures. And they usually did so much more harshly than I do. Are you ready to say that Jesus Himself and the apostles writing under the inspiration of God the Holy Spirit were being unloving, ungodly, hateful, etc., for speaking against false teachers? That’s a very serious allegation to make against the Jesus you claim to follow.
Discernment work, done properly (and I’m not denying that sometimes it’s done improperly) is done out of love– love for the victims of false teachers. It’s the same love that sees an oblivious child in the street with a truck bearing down on him and snatches the child out of harm’s way. It is not loving to let people continue to believe false doctrine that may lead them to an eternity in hell without at least trying to rescue them.
7. Ms. Twisted Sister may not always be right but that doesn’t mean she’s a false teacher. We all get things wrong.
Following that logic, I would be accusing every pastor in the history of the New Testament church of being a false teacher, including Paul and the apostles, because they have all made mistakes in their preaching at some point. And I’m certainly not doing that.
In the same way that a driver, despite taking every precaution, could one day accidentally hit and kill a pedestrian is different from a person who decides to go out and become a serial killer, there is a big difference between a pastor who generally preaches sound doctrine, makes an innocent mistake, repents of it, corrects it, and goes on to continue to preach sound doctrine, and a person who unrepentantly, and despite continued rebuke, wallows in false doctrine and rebelliously keeps teaching it. Let’s not pretend that the two are the same. These are not innocent mistakes these false teachers are making and repenting of. This is the continuous, rebellious, proclamation of false doctrine.
8. Maybe Ms. Twisted sister says some things that are wrong, bibically, but she says some good things, too. I just “chew up the meat and spit out the bones”.
Please show me the Scripture, chapter and verse, in context that says that this is the way we are to deal with false teachers. Hint- it doesn’t. It says exactly the opposite. It says we are to have nothing to do with false teachers, and that if we embrace them, we are taking part in their wicked works. See Romans 16:17-18, 2 John 9-11, 2 Corinthians 6:14-18, Ephesians 5:11,and Titus 1:9-16.
9. You’re judging Ms. Twisted Sister! The Bible says not to judge.
No, the Bible says not to judge improperly or unbiblically. The same Jesus who said not to judge improperly in Mathew 7 also said we are to “judge with right judgment” in John 7.
Matthew 18:15-20 and 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 are clear that it is the duty of Christians to make scriptural judgments about sin in the church and excommunicate so called Christians who unrepentantly persist in sin.
The Bible does not say not to judge at all, it says to do it biblically.
10. You shouldn’t be writing against Ms. Twisted Sister, you should just be praying for her.
First of all, I do pray regularly for false teachers. But to say we should only pray for them and not warn others of them is to say that Jesus and all the other New Testament figures who warned against false teachers and false doctrine – under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit – were wrong to do so and should simply have prayed for them. Are you willing to level that kind of accusation against Jesus and the Holy Spirit?
It’s disappointing for people who idolize a certain teacher – someone they’re so sure is helping them grow closer to the Lord – to hear hard truths about this person they’ve come to love and admire. I get that. I’ve stood in their shoes. It’s like ripping off a Band-Aid or being doused with a bucket of cold water. But, as I said, it is not loving to see people believing false doctrine without at least making an attempt to rescue them, even if it hurts at first. Let us pull them back from the brink in love and patience. Second Timothy 2:24-26 says it best:
And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.
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Would you say offending with the purpose to offend with the truth is the same as what you are saying? So should we ever purpose to offend when we speak the truth from the Bible?
Great question! (And let me take this opportunity to say to all of my readers and followers that if you’re ever unclear about something I’ve written or posted – especially if it seems unbiblical or out of character for me – please, please, please just ask me about it politely, like this reader did, and I will be happy to explain if I’m able. I would much rather you ask than attack me, jump to the wrong conclusion, or worse, assume I’ve apostatized. Genuine, polite questions are always welcome!)
Hon, when you say “purpose to offend,” I’m thinking of a person who gets out of bed in the morning with the primarygoal of offending people, making them angry, or upsetting them, not with the primarygoal of sharing the gospel or restoring someone from sin.
I’m not sure why a Christian would have the desire, goal, or motive of offending people, regardless of his reason for doing so. That goes against the grain of everything Scripture teaches us both about Christian character and the ineffectiveness of provoking people. The Bible says:
A brother offended is harder to win over than a strong city, And contentions are like the bars of a citadel. …if possible, so far as it depends on you, being at peace with all men…
Proverbs 18:19, Romans 12:18
Fathers are told not to provoke their children to anger. One of the qualifications for pastors and elders (which we’re to emulate) is that they not be pugnacious (i.e. “looking for a fight”), but peaceable and considerate. (If not, they’re disqualified from ministry.) We’re not to place a stumbling block or offense before anyone – saved or lost, in order to protect our ministry and so that people might be saved. You’ll recall that Paul devotes significant ink to the idea that if it would offend people for him to eat meat sacrificed to idols, he’ll never eat meat again. We’re told not to be quarrelsome, but kind, patient, and gentle in our teaching and correction so that people can be saved. Titus 3:2 reminds us “to slander no one, but to be peaceable, considerate, demonstrating all gentleness to all men”.
The Scriptures go on and on about this. We’re not only forbidden from trying to offend people, we’re instructed to bend over backwards trying not to offend people. The Bible is offensive enough all on its own. That’s more than enough offense for sinners to try to deal with without us making things harder and piling on personal offensiveness.
And that’s the whole point of my article. Not that we should intentionally be personally offensive in our demeanor, but that we shouldn’t refrain from kindly, yet firmly speaking the truth in love so that sinners might be saved, and saints might be sanctified, just because we’re afraid that biblical truth will offend them.
I drop in on the RNM website from time to time, and from what I can see, it’s almost all (if not all) false teachers.
Scripture is clear that churches shouldn’t support (financially or otherwise) false teachers, and certainly not those, like RNM, who profit from platforming them and spreading their false doctrine. In fact, if your pastor welcomes false teachers into the church – in person, through their books and materials, via video platforms like RNM, etc. – instead of rebuking them and their false doctrine, he is participating in their wickedness, he is disqualified from pastoral ministry, and he needs to be under church discipline.
Yeah, it’s that serious to God.
And from a stewardship point of view, even if there are a few doctrinally sound teachers sprinkled in at RNM, I don’t see how it could possibly be worth the monthly subscription price for whatever few good teachers they might* carry.
*Visiting the RNM site, I get the impression that they want your money before they give you access to the names of all the teachers they platform. I clicked on several pages, and the teachers they did disclose fell into two categories for me: people I know to be false teachers, and people I’ve never heard of. I didn’t see the name of anyone I know to be a doctrinally sound teacher.
Since it’s a subscription service, not a “pay for the specific video you’re using” kind of thing, there isn’t even the option for pastors to say something like, “We feel like this particular R.C. Sproul video is the best one available on the theology of shoelaces, but it’s only available from RNM. We are recommending ONLY this video at RNM. Avoid everything else.”. No, you’re either in (and paying for everything) or you’re out.
Because RNM is primarily a source of false doctrine and false teachers, and because your church’s offering money would be going to support that – in disobedience to the commands of Scripture – you should be very concerned if your church subscribes to RNM. I would recommend that you and/or your husband set up an appointment with the pastor to discuss it. There’s an underlying issue here in subscribing to RNM – either the pastor is not exercising proper oversight over whoever subscribed the church to RNM, or the pastor is not discerning or diligent enough to know that he’s unleashing false teachers on his sheep.
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My wife and I just finished watching the taped version of your talk [from the Resolute Conference on Answers TV] and we both agreed that it was extremely helpful! Thank you for pouring your time and effort into what was a clearly well-researched message.
Thank you so much. Yes, some of the teaching sessions (including mine) from Answers in Genesis’ Answers for Women 2025 Conference, Resolute, have been posted to Answers TV. I’m sure the rest will be posted soon, so if you have a subscription, you can watch! If you don’t have a subscription, give it some consideration! It’s only $4.99 a month or $39.99 a year, plus they offer a seven day free trial to get you started! If you’d like to watch my session on the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), here’s the handout that goes along with it.
I do have one question, however. During your gospel presentation you specifically said that Christ died for “you” (i.e., the listener). But if you are saying that to an unregenerate person who has not been predestined to eternal life (according to the “U” in TULIP), how does that work with limited atonement (“The atonement for sin that Christ made on the cross applies only to those who are, or will, in the future be, saved”)?
Respectfully, how could you truthfully say that Christ died for “you,” if that person hasn’t been elected for life? Considering that you [are Reformed] your presentation of the gospel seems to be inconsistent with the doctrine of limited atonement.
I’d like to get your thoughts on this apparent discrepancy between the two. Thank you for your time and consideration!
You’re welcome. I’m glad to explain. I was speaking to about 3000 people that week (plus however many will watch the video, now), the vast majority of whom were already saved. So it is true for those people – Jesus did die for them.
When I gave the gospel presentation, I was addressing it to the elect in the audience – to those who would listen and believe the gospel, either right then, or later in life. (So it was true for them, too. Jesus died for them.) I was not speaking to those who would reject the gospel for the rest of their lives and spend an eternity in Hell – those who aren’t elect (if there were any like that in the audience), even though they could also hear me.
The thing is -and I know I’m not telling you anything new, here – you and I don’t know who’s elect and who’s not. That’s above our pay grade and none of our business. That’s God’s purview. The only way we can know for sure that someone is elect is after she gets genuinely saved and perseveres to the end. If she’s genuinely saved, that means she’s elect. But we can’t know before someone gets saved whether or not she’s elect, so, like the sower, we scatter the seed of the gospel with wild abandon, trusting God’s sovereignty as to what kind of soil it lands on and leaving everything after our gospel presentation up to Him.
I would also appeal to Scripture:
In Peter’s sermon in Acts 3, he’s preaching an evangelistic sermon and says -without knowing whether or not any of his audience is elect:
For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways.
Was everyone he was preaching to elect? Probably not.
In 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Paul hearkens back to the gospel he proclaimed to these brothers when they were lost and says he told them that “Christ died for our sins”. At the time he originally said that, he had no way of knowing whether or not everyone he was preaching to would believe.
But all of that being said, I did read back through all of the sermons in Acts and some other evangelistic encounters in Scripture (and also discussed this on Sunday with one of our {unofficial} lay elders at church), and the general approach seemed to be: You’re a sinner, here’s what Jesus did so salvation and the forgiveness of sin could take place, repent, believe it, and be saved. The personal appeal was placed on the “you must repent and believe” part, not on the “Jesus died” part.
So, sure, I’ll tweak things and try to pattern my gospel presentation more in the style of the Apostles, not because of Calvinism as a framework, but because, as Christians – all Christians – we do always want to be as closely aligned with Scripture as we can get. So, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I appreciate the sharpening.
But I’m not going to quibble with anyone who says, “Jesus died for you,” when she shares the gospel accurately with someone. If the person she’s talking to gets saved, it’s true. If the person she’s talking to doesn’t get saved, she’s technically made a good faith, optimistic mistake while earnestly appealing to him to repent and believe the gospel, but she hasn’t sinned, it doesn’t matter to that person, and she hasn’t sent that person to Hell by saying so. And … you know … she’s sharing the gospel.
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I get lots of questions about particular authors, pastors, and Bible teachers, and whether or not I recommend them. Some of the best known can be found above at my Popular False Teachers tab. The teacher below is someone I’ve been asked about recently, so I’ve done some research on her.
Generally speaking, in order for me to recommend a teacher, speaker, or author, he or she has to meet three criteria:
a) A female teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly preach to or teach men in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual).
b) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be partnering with or frequently appearing with false teachers. This is a violation of Scripture.
c) The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be teaching false doctrine.
In some cases, I am not very familiar with the teachers I’m asked about (there are so many out there!) and have not had the opportunity to examine their writings or hear them speak, so most of the research I do involves items a and b (although in order to partner with false teachers (b) it is reasonable to assume their doctrine is acceptable to the false teacher and that they are not teaching anything that would conflict with the false teacher’s doctrine). Partnering with false teachers and women preaching to men are each sufficient biblical reasons not to follow a pastor, teacher, or author, or use his/her materials.
Just to be clear, “not recommended” is a spectrum. On one end of this spectrum are people like Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth and Kay Arthur. These are people I would not label as false teachers because their doctrine is generally sound, but because of some red flags I’m seeing with them, you won’t find me proactively endorsing them or suggesting them as a good resource, either. There are better people you could be listening to. On the other end of the spectrum are people like Joyce Meyer and Rachel Held Evans- complete heretics whose teachings, if believed, might lead you to an eternity in Hell. Most of the teachers I review fall somewhere in the middle of this spectrum (leaning toward the latter).
If you’d like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click the Recommended Bible Teachers tab at the top of this page.
Kristi is on the Ministry Leadership faculty at Williamson (screenshot), where she teaches classes in “Goals, Priorities, and Attitudes,” “The Life of Christ, the “Israel Biblical Study Program,” and “Living Free in Christ”. One can only presume that since Williamson is co-ed, the college is fine with her “preaching,” and the fact that she’s training students in “Ministry Leadership,” that she is helping train men for the pastorate.
…and the bestselling author of” several books and Bible studies. “Kristi teaches the Bible in its historical, cultural, geographic, and linguistic contexts. She encourages believers to be postured to receive what the living God is saying through communally experiencing Scripture. Kristi teaches about the goodness of God, often experienced through table fellowship, practicing hospitality, and collaborative wisdom.”
“…Kristi has taught and shepherded thousands…Kristi began leading biblical study trips to Israel in 2008. Her study trips to the biblical lands, along with her Pearls podcast and in-person and online courses, help Westerners discover and appreciate the Bible within the framework in which it was written. This new lens offers a deeper look into what the biblical characters meant by what they did, said, and wrote, inviting us to better experience the God who is constantly pursuing us. Kristi has a Masters in Christian Education from Dallas Theological Seminary and has dedicated her life to teaching people how to study the Bible.”
I’ve added bold italics to several words and phrases above to highlight some red flags. Often, you can surmise, with some level of accuracy, what are going to be the biblical issues with a teacher you’re not familiar with merely by reading the “about” page of her website.
You’ll notice the heavy emphasis on “experiencing” God rather than growing in Christ through the study and teaching of His written Word, prayer, and sound preaching and teaching at church.
The Bible doesn’t teach us to be “postured to receive what the living God is saying” (i.e. to me, personally, today, in a self-centered hermeneutic). This is another phrase that suggests extra-biblical revelation via personal, subjective experience rather than studying the text of Scripture to discover what God has already said.
In Scripture, “shepherding” is a term reserved for literal shepherds, Jesus, and pastors, not just anyone who leads or teaches in a church or parachurch ministry, and not for women who rebel against Scripture and unbiblically insert themselves into the position of pastor (as is the case with Kristi). You will not find this term implied or applied to women anywhere in the New Testament.
Kristi says she teaches “people” how to study the Bible. Not “women”. “People” – men and women.
When someone tells you who she is, believe her.
Kristi Is a Female “Pastor”
Kristi doesn’t merely preach to men at co-ed events like most of the other female teachers I write about, she has actually been on staff at a church for several years in the position of “Teaching Pastor”. This is a clear and direct violation of Scripture and constitutes ongoing, unrepentant sin.
Kristi preached her first recorded sermon at COTC on February 4, 2018. Up until at least April 27, 2025, Kristi held the position of “Teaching Pastor” at Church of the City in Franklin, Tennessee. Sometime between February 26, 2025, when I took this screenshot of the “Pastoral & Ministry Staff” page at COTC’s website…
…Kristi was removed from the “Pastoral & Ministry Staff” page. Her April 27, 2025 “sermon” is currently the most recent one at COTC’s YouTube channel, and it still introduces her as “Teaching Pastor”:
Whether Kristi has actually resigned her position or has merely been removed from the staff page to avoid being called to account for her sin remains to be seen.
Prior to working as a “pastor” at COTC, Kristi was on staff at Strong Tower Bible Church in Nashville, Tennessee. Though Kristi didn’t “carry the title of pastor,” p.3, of the October 2013 church newsletter is careful to tell us*, according to her LinkedIn page, she was the “Director of Women’s Ministry and Adult Christian Education [i.e. discipleship],” which, in addition to the fact that she was occasionally preaching the Sunday sermon at least as early as 2015, indicates that she was functioning in the role of a pastor, even without the title.1
*(Readers might find it interesting that STBC was careful to make clear that none of the women they referred to in 2013 were pastors, yet today, STBC’s female “pastors” are proudly listed on the church website and outnumber the lone male pastor three to one {the pastor’s wife is also the “Pastor of Belonging”}. This is what happens when a church begins allowing women to take on roles the Bible restricts to men.)
This is probably overstating the obvious since I’ve already mentioned that, as a member of the “Ministry Leadership” faculty at Williamson College, Kristi helps train men for the pastorate, and, that as a “pastor” on staff at two different churches, she obviously preached to men, so I won’t belabor the point, but we will press on.
Kristi regularly and unrepentantly violates Scripture by preaching to and instructing men in the Scriptures. Here are just a few of the scores of examples available:
Church of the City
(Obviously, in each example, there are men in the audience since these are all sermons during the church worship service.)
Below is a partial listing of the sermon archives at the COTC website for Kristi’s many “sermons” – nearly 70 of them at this time. Kristi has also taught – also nearly 70 times – COTC Daily, a church-wide daily Bible teaching video.
Kristi’s earliest recorded “sermon” at the COTC website: February 4, 2018…
Mother’s Day, May 9, 2021– 54:51: In case you still aren’t convinced Kristi preaches to men, she is happy to settle that for you once and for all. “This teaching is not just for women. So can I just hear some noise from all the men in the room to let me know that you’re here?”
The Lord’s Supper
Perhaps one of the most viscerally vile aspects of a woman pillaging the pulpit is the stomach-turning scene of her desecrating the Lord’s Table by presiding over it. Kristi has administered the Lord’s Supper numerous times at COTC. here are just a few examples:
July 17, 2022 124:59: COTC apparently practices open communion (anyone present is invited to participate regardless of whether or not the person is saved). The elements have already been placed at everyone’s seat, and Kristi says nothing to fence the table (i.e. at a bare minimum, explain that only those who are Believers should partake). There’s also no explanation of the gospel or a call to repent and believe it.
Although I haven’t run across any photos or video of Kristi performing baptisms at COTC, it’s reasonable to assume that she has or that she at least would be allowed to if she wanted to, because there’s plenty of video of other female “pastors” of COTC performing baptisms, and Kristi certainly performs baptisms in other venues.
Baptism, like the Lord’s Supper, is an ordinance of the local church, not an individualized personal activity, and should be presided over within the parameters of the church by pastors and elders. What you see below is neither.
A Weekend with Kristi McLelland at Discovery Church, Newton, North Carolina. The first night was “a co-ed event where both men and women are able to learn a new way to look a (sic) scripture (sic).”
A few different “sermons” at Journey Church in Brentwood, TN. Here’s one where she’s introduced by Journey’s “Pastor Susie”:
Feast is the branding for Kristi’s Lifeway Women conference tour, this year in Denver, Ft. Worth, and Atlanta. At the FAQ page, a frequently asked question is “Can men attend this event?”. Answer: “Men are more than welcome to attend…”.2
Cruise with Kristi McLelland: Voyage Through the New Testament World is coming up in April 2026. Since the Lifeway info. page doesn’t specify that this event is limited to women (and since they use the “Kristi teaches people” {rather than women} phraseology at least twice), I emailed and asked, point blank, if the cruise is open to men and if men are allowed to attend Kristi’s teaching sessions.2
The Bible commands us over and over not to associate ourselves or have anything to do with false teachers or those who claim to be Christians, yet live in willful unrepentant sin (persistent false teaching, including the false teaching of women “pastoring” or “preaching to men3, being one of those sins). In fact, to associate with false teachers and fail to rebuke them for their false doctrine disqualifies pastors from ministry. Dare we expect any less from female teachers?
Unfortunately, unrepentantly yoking with other false teachers is another sin Kristi unrepentantly engages in. Teachers are under a stricter judgment, and this is another disqualifying sin.
By her own choice, Kristi’s life and ministry are absolutely saturated with false and problematic teachers, virtually to the exclusion of doctrinally sound teachers. But even if she wanted to partner with doctrinally sound teachers, she wouldn’t be able to find one who would be willing. Doctrinally sound teachers don’t partner with women who unrepentantly rebel against Scripture by becoming “pastors”.
There are so many examples of Kristi partnering with other false teachers that it would be impossible to cite them all, but here is a sampling:
Kristi is a frequent guest on TBN’s Better Together. If you’re not familiar, it’s a little bit like a “Christian” version of The View without the studio audience. A group of several (varying) women’s “Bible” study celebrities discuss life issues and biblical topics. And, par for the course for TBN, they’re all problematic at best, raging heretics at worst. (There’s a reason TBN is often wryly dubbed the “Total Blasphemy Network”.)
To date, Kristi has appeared on at least 46 episodes of Better Together (you can watch excerpts here) with false teachers including:
And more episodes are upcoming. Here’s Kristi’s Instagram reel from April 9 on the set where she, Lisa Harper, Toni Collier, and others are about to film more episodes.
Lifeway Women is the women’s division of Lifeway, and an entity of the Southern Baptist Convention (like our seminaries, mission boards, etc., are entities). It is the online platform for all things women’s ministry – Bible studies, women’s conferences, a blog, a podcast, and so on – for use and purchase by individuals and churches.
I’ve researched and written articles on about 2/3 of the women Lifeway Women platforms, enough to tell you that the prototypical women’s author/speaker they seek out – to to write their women’s “Bible” studies, speak at their women’s conferences and so on – preaches to men, teaches false doctrine, and yokes with other false teachers, all of which violates Scripture. Additionally, some are woke (like Jackie Hill Perry) and at least one identifies as a “same sex attracted Christian” (Rebecca McLaughlin). I recommend that women use Lifeway Women’s endorsement as a litmus test of who to avoid.
Kristi’s earliest appearance at Lifeway Women seems to have been a July 2, 2019 blog article called Creating Space for Sabbath. This was probably around the time Lifeway Women signed her as a women’s “Bible” study author, as Lifeway staff confirmed to me that they published her first study, Jesus & Women in “early 2020”.
As I mentioned previously, Kristi was preaching to men and functioning as a “pastor” at least as early as 2015. In this February 2023 video, she says (39:12) that she’s “in my 6th year” of being on the teaching staff of COTC Franklin, which would mean she was hired there in 2018, before Lifeway Women brought her on board.
What does that mean, my fellow Southern Baptists, and why should you care? That means that Lifeway Women knewKristi was currently working as a “pastor” when they decided to platform her. And despite our crystal clear statement of faith, the Baptist Faith and Message, which states unequivocally that only biblically qualified men may be pastors, they went ahead and hired her to teach and disciple Southern Baptist (and other) women anyway, and have continued to employ and platform her, knowing she’s a “pastor,” for the past 6-7 years.2
(If you’re not already outraged over all of that, I would encourage you to spend some time pondering this high-handed, flagrant, and audacious slap-in-the-face sin against Almighty God and every Southern Baptist on the planet, and ask the Lord to stir up in you a good, holy, righteous, zealous fury in this matter for the glory of His name and His Word, and the sake of His precious daughters. This is spiritual abuse, and we’ve been played.)
Of course, as a Lifeway Women platformed author/speaker, Kristi has been a guest on numerous episodes of Marked and other Lifeway Women productions. Most recently, Kristi did a seven week stint on Marked teaching her study, The Gospel on the Ground.
Lifeway Women Live 2020
Lifeway Women Live 2021. Photo courtesy of Lifeway Newsroom. Seated L-R: Jackie Hill Perry, Angie Smith, Kristi McLelland, and Ruth Chou Simons
2022- Kristi speaks at the Kerygma Summit women’s conference with false teachers Christine Caine and Lisa Harper, founder of the conference. In the Greek, “kerygma” means to preach the good news. And considering the fact that Kristi is a “pastor” and Christine and Lisa both preach to men, I’m sure the emphasis of the conference is on “preach” rather than “good news”.
2023- Speaking again with Christine Caine and Lisa Harper at Grace Family Church in Tampa, Florida (another church with women “pastors”) at The Beautiful Conference.
Spent the weekend in Rochester, MN at a conference with Kelly Minter. I’ve lost 2 good friends over the last few weeks – Gabe Patillo and Mandisa. It’s hard to go out when you’re grieving, but Kelly and these women were a GIFT to me. We are better together. pic.twitter.com/iENDeyePCz
Kristi on Lisa Harper’s podcast in 2022. Part of the transcript of Lisa’s introduction of Kristi reads: “I first met Kristi…goodness gracious, I think 30 years ago…I’ve been a huge fan ever since last couple of years…By the mercy of God, we’ve gotten to do a lot of life together. Currently, she is not only one of my favorite professors, she’s teaching me how to play pickleball…”
Golf the Mac, “A world class weekend of golf, music, & purpose,” co-ed, no doubt, is coming up in September with Toby Mac*.
*Toby Mac isn’t doctrinally sound. He’s got lots of connections with Bethel, he’s obviously fine with Kristi being a “pastor,” yoking with false teachers, and teaching false doctrine, and there are other issues.
Kristi Teaches False Doctrine
I’ve cited a couple of instances of Kristi’s unbiblical teaching above. Let’s look at a few more.
Extra-Biblical Revelation
The Bible does not teach us that we’re supposed to “hear God speaking to us” outside the pages of Scripture. It teaches us that God’s Word is sufficient. Kristi, however, employs various methods of “hearing from God”.
God supposedly spoke to Kristi as she explains in this December 23, 2018 “sermon” at COTC- (101:50) “I was on a rooftop in India one night watching the sun go down and I had been in a season of prayer about what was next in my life when I heard the Lord, clear as a bell just tell me, “Kristi, it’s time for you to go to seminary.”. And I believe that I heard, in part, because I was postured to receive. I was creating space for the living God to come in and say what He wanted to say, to do what He wanted to do.”
Most Christians have heard the old joke about the guy who wanted God to speak to him. He let his Bible fall open to a random page, closed his eyes and pointed to a verse on the page. He opened his eyes and found his finger on Matthew 27:5: “Judas went out and hanged himself.”. “Well,” he thought to himself, “that couldn’t possibly be God speaking to me. I’ll try again.”. He repeated the process, only to find that this time his finger landed on Luke 10:37: “Go and do thou likewise.”.
The fact that we joke about this points to how silly it is to think God communicates with us this way.
But in an interview and article on The 700 Club on CBN, Taking a Fresh Look at the Holy Land, Kristi explains how she actually used this method and believed it was God speaking to her about a life decision. This is a Bible scholar?
Desperate to hear from the Lord, Kristi opened the Bible and said, “Okay God, I need you to speak to me.” She randomly laid her finger on a scripture, (sic) and it landed on Psalms 78:19 which reads, “Can God really spread a table in the wilderness?” Kristi knew she was hearing from the Lord. Reading how God provided manna from Heaven for His children during their “wilderness” experience comforted her. God was letting her know that He would take care of her if she would only trust Him.
The Enneagram
Though its ubiquity seems to be waning and it will probably soon be relegated to the dust bin along with The Prayer of Jabez and WWJD bracelets, the Enneagram has been a popular fad for the past several years among the divangelista4 set. Unfortunately, the Enneagram is steeped in unbiblical mysticism and undermines the doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture.
…but in this “sermon” at Journey Church, Faith to Let Go (27:00), Kristi says she’s an Enneagram 6.
I didn’t know Enneagram numbers were fluid, but…OK.
Mysticism and Spiritual Formation
Silence. Solitude. Those are words that should make your ears perk up if you hear them in the context of a Bible study or sermon, because they often indicate that you’re being taught some form of Spiritual Formation or unbiblical mysticism. And that’s just what Kristi gives us the tiniest whiff of in this January 26, 2020 “sermon” at COTC, Practicing the Way:
You’ll notice from the beginning that Kristi is not exegeting or expositing a text of Scripture. This is all about personal experience and what people do. In the first 4 1/2 minutes of this “sermon” she asks the audience three or four times to raise their hands if they think X or do Y.
7:52- Kristi actually reads two verses of Scripture, John 5:1-2. They have nothing to do with silence and solitude, and she is basically using them as a springboard to talk about what she really wants to talk about, the geography, archaeology, and architecture related to the passage.
11:43- Kristi does the same thing with John 5:3-6. She uses it as a means to transition into talking about Middle Eastern culture and history.
16:00- Halfway through a 32 minute “sermon” on silence and solitude, Kristi has taught nothing about silence and solitude, she has cited no Scripture that teaches about silence and solitude, and she has taught only architecture, history and culture – and zero exposition of spiritual principles – from John 5:1-6.
16:25- Kristi begins eisegeting her own ideas about wellness and healing into the text:
“‘You know how to live lame. Are you ready to know yourself at full speed? Are you ready to steward the wellness, the healing that I can bring you, and what that’s going to mean for you in your life?’ I think this question finds us often in times of silence and solitude…”
None of that has anything to do with the meaning of John 5:1-6, but Kristi isn’t interested in teaching what this passage actually means (if she were, she would have finished the passage, and would have handled it accurately), she wants to teach her own thoughts, ideas, and stories.
Also, “questions” do not “find you”. Questions are thoughts that you form in your mind by thinking. They are not animate, sentient objects outside yourself that hunt you down. This is part of the mysticism Kristi is foisting upon her audience.
17:30- Kristi exegetes two back to back personal anecdotes. She spends much more time on these than she did on actual Scripture; Scripture she did not, in fact, teach.
26:55- With about five minutes left in her “sermon,” Kristi talks for a few seconds about practicing the “rhythm” (another buzzword to be aware of) of silence and solitude. This is time, she says, for the audience to sit in silence so God can “meet with them”. She doesn’t instruct them to pray, which would be the biblical thing to do, but to “sit in silence”. No mention of what’s supposed to be happening or what it will look like if God “meets with them” while they’re “sitting in silence”. But that’s what they do for the next five minutes (until Kristi, once again, desecrates the Lord’s Table by presiding over it as a “pastor”).
Kristi has not taught the audience what silence and solitude mean, what Scripture says about it, or why they should practice it. She hasn’t properly taught Scripture, nor has she even done more than touch on the false doctrine her “sermon” was supposed to be about. It was just thirty two minutes of paid talk therapy for Kristi.
Secular Humanistic Therapy Philosophy and Standpoint Epistemology
In this November 14, 2021 “sermon,” The Fire of Jesus (109:40) Kristi says: “I am back in therapy, and you can only teach from where you’re at, so probably my next 500 teachings are going to somehow be connected with my therapy…And I’m reading the Bible with different eyes because my soul is being stirred in a different way. There is a work of God – a deep work of God – going on in my life right now…but story reads story, and that’s the way it’s meant to be. You’re meant to read the Bible in your story.”
Secular “trauma therapy” is another fad that’s popular among evangelical celebrities right now. Here’s an excerpt from my article on Tara-Leigh Cobble, who’s a champion of this unbiblical practice:
And since she brought it up in this post, I’d like to address another issue here. Tara-Leigh refers to her own “therapist” and also says, “I can’t think of a teacher/preacher I respect (in modern times) who hasn’t openly talked about seeing a licensed therapist…I believe in it so much that I’ve even paid for therapy for my team members. It’s VITAL.”
While everyone faces difficulties from time to time, and some of those difficulties are intense enough that a time of pastoral or biblical counseling is needed, routine or ongoing “therapy” from a “licensed therapist” (which, in the common vernacular, and at “trauma” events like this one, usually refers to a secular psychiatrist, psychologist, or other mental health professional) is no more “VITAL,” or even indicated, for normal, healthy individuals – even for non-Christians – than a weekly trip to the doctor for someone who isn’t sick.
The idea that Christians, across the board, need to be in therapy on a regular basis as though that’s normal or vital is found nowhere in Scripture, and undermines the Bible’s teaching that Scripture alone is sufficient for life and godliness.
Secular therapists (and even most “Christian counselors/therapists”) use humanistic, unbiblical methods and paradigms. (And I ought to know. I have a BA in psychology and did my Master’s work in {secular} marriage and family counseling.) When Christians have problems, the biblical thing to do is to turn to Christ and His Word, not worldly worldviews and coping mechanisms.
And this “story reads story,” read yourself into Scripture idea? Sounds great on the surface, but it’s completely unbiblical. The theological terms for this are eisegesis and standpoint epistemology – in a nutshell, reading yourself into Scripture and interpreting Scripture based on what it means to you through the lens of your personal life and experiences.
Over the past few years, several of my followers have sent me (unsolicited) their impressions of Kristi’s teaching:
Follower 1: My church women’s group did the Kristie Mclleland (sic) Luke in the Land study. In the book, on almost every page, she drove this point about “bringing God’s Kingdom to Empire” and “bringing Kingdom to earth” over and over and over. This was the central point of the book, that we must strive to bring Kingdom to earth.
Then, in the very last chapter, on the last page or two of the book was her agenda finally revealed….she introduced this Jewish concept called Tikkum Olam which means “to repair the world” and said we should adopt this. We must go out and fix the world of its problems.
No talk of sin or how it’s not our job as Christians to repair the consequences of sin in the world. No talk of how Jesus took care of this on the cross. This woman is a deceiver.
Here is the exact quote from the book Luke In The Land study (on page 148-149), very last pages of the text.
“The Jewish people have a phrase that has captured my heart and attention over the last year. It’s the tikkun olam – the “repair of the world” or the “fixing of the world.” For the Jews, the invitation is to engage the world, not retreat from it. The Jewish people are living out the mandate given to their ancestors Abraham and Sarah in Genesis 18:19– to do what is just (mishpat) and right (tzedakah). They are engaging the world to heal it, to better it, to embody the work of tikkun olam.”
Then, in the participation questions, she asks “How can you engage and embody the work of tikkun olam in your everyday life?” This is how the study ends, this is the culminating message that she has worked up to in every chapter.
I believe it’s deception to give that people the idea that they can repair the world, even if they’re working in the Holy Spirit. That’s not what Jesus told us to do. I’m not sure if this is NAR or Dominionism or what, but it’s unbiblical.
Follower 2: [In the] Jesus and Women Bible study she uses a quote from Russell Moore in the introduction on page 5. The study itself also seems to engage the reader or student in more self focus than Christ focused.
Follower 3: From the couple of hours I spent reading and listening to her content, she is very Me centered and into emotionalism. She rarely quotes the Bible, or gives any evidence for her beliefs other than ” I Felt that God was leading me”.
Follower 4: I’ve watched the first session video of Jesus and Women, 3 sermons, and 2 interviews. This woman reads little Scripture then proceeds to “pontificate” for the next hour. She’s made statements “our pain moves God to action” “we create or destroy worlds with our words” “the fire of Jesus is actually healing and not punitive” “we are meant to read the Bible according to our story.” “Prayer is meant to be this subversive presence in the earth by which the Kingdom of God is entering the restoration, renewal, and repair of all things into this broken world because we are an Easter people living in a Good Friday world.” “We are being invited (by God) to round up.” ??? She announced to the congregation last November during a sermon that she was “back in therapy.”
I wanted to share this with you so that other women can be forewarned. I too was deceived at a time in my life and I pray – NO MORE! Sola Scriptura. (I watched [COTC sermons] “Prayer is Subversive”, “Let it go, lay it down” and the first session of Jesus and Women.)
I wanted to take a closer look at Kristi’s writing and theology, so I went through Lifeway’s sample of her book Luke in the Land. My notes below include page numbers if you’d like to follow along. The text starts on p. 13.
Right off the bat, the pre-study questions lead the reader to focus narcissistically on self / self as authority:
p. 13- Me, me, me and my feelings
p. 16- I could get a really good sense of who you are, whom you love, what you care about, and the world that has shaped you and your worldview simply by looking at your photo albums and your snapshots—the snapshots you chose to keep along the way. What are some of your favorite snapshots or stories in your own life? Who’s in your photo albums? What places are in your photo albums?
p. 17- What are some of your favorite “snapshots” from Scripture? From Jesus’s life?
p. 17- Prompted by the Holy Spirit, Luke recorded the exact stories the living God wanted us to have. This makes me want to EAT my Bible and carry it around inside me. I want to see the snapshots He wants me to have, to hold, to carry within me as I live, move, and have my being in this life... What began in Luke would see fulfillment throughout Acts and on and on until this very moment you and I find ourselves in. We too are part of this story.
Me, me, me. The Bible is about me.
Kristi also muddies the waters on the theopneustos of Scripture:
p. 17- “Prompted by the Holy Spirit,” p. 19- “Led by the Holy Spirit”.
Evangelicals often describe themselves as being prompted or led by the Spirit. The inspiration of Scripture is more than that, plus she heavily emphasizes that Luke interviewed people and collected their stories, making it sound like he was merely a human biographer rather than a writer of God-breathed Scripture.
p. 20- Within these difficult stories of harsh domination by cruel pharaohs, kings, and caesars, there are stories of light in the darkness, hope in the midst of despair, and of salvation and deliverance. These biblical stories teach us to look for light in our own darkness, to reach for hope in our own despair, and to courageously cry out for salvation and deliverance in our own lives.
No, they don’t. Relief from, or solutions to personal problems is not the purpose of these passages. Their purpose is to display God’s glory in the grand narrative of Scripture and the story of redemption.
p. 21- Jesus, the King of kings, came all the way to the lowest circle of humanity, found the lost, the sick, and the marginalized, and prioritized them.
No, He didn’t. God is no respecter of persons. He does not show favoritism. Jesus preached the gospel to everyone who would listen and welcomed any who were repentant and believed.
p. 25- Throughout both the Sermon on the Mount and in His teaching and ministry as a Rabbi of Israel, He continually proclaimed one theme. What was that theme? LOOK UP MATTHEW 4:17,23-25; LUKE 4:43; LUKE 10:1-9; ACTS 1:1-3. What was Jesus proclaiming in all these verses?
How can the reader possibly know? This is the introduction to Luke. The reader hasn’t yet studied the book of Luke to glean the answer to all of this.
p. 26- Simply put, the kingdom of God is God’s reign over the universe. He is sovereign and has dominion over everything in and under heaven. It’s a term that’s used in the Old Testament, but “arises more specifically from Jesus’ proclamation of the inbreaking of God’s rule.” And what is God’s rule breaking in on? The empire. Jesus’s world in Luke, and our world today, was and is anchored in the way of the empire.
1. “God’s rule” has been there from eternity past. It’s not “breaking in” like this world is our place and He’s an unwanted intruder.
2. God has been ruling His people since Creation.
3. The kingdom of God is salvation and the gospel. It’s coming to save people -spiritually- not defeat worldly “empires”.
4. What is “the way of empire”? That’s not a phrase used in Scripture, it’s a phrase Kristi came up with and she just throws it out there without explaining it.
p. 27- This chart makes no sense whatsoever. The example she’s given seems to be backwards according to what little she’s said about the Kingdom of God vs. “Empire”. Shouldn’t “striving” be under “Empire,” and “Sabbath/Rest” be under “Kingdom”? (And what does any of this have to do with the text of Luke 1 or 2, which is where she should be starting a study of the book of Luke?)
This concept of the inbreaking of God’s rule was central to Jesus’s teaching,
Then why doesn’t the text of Luke (or any of the other gospels) say anything about that?
p. 29- READ ISAIAH 9:6-7. Which of these names and promises about Jesus do you think the people of the time were most excited about? What do you think they were looking for in the promised Messiah?
1. What difference does it make what they were excited about?
2. This is speculation, not study. What does the text say?
Which of the promises about the Messiah from Isaiah 9:6-7 brings you the most comfort?
And now we’re back to narcissistic navel-gazing.
Cell phones came out when I was a sophomore in college…
Personal anecdote.
Have you had a similar experience of being really lost? What did you feel when you realized you were lost?
Personal experience and feelings. What about the text of Luke?
p. 30- LOOK AT GENESIS 3:8-10 AGAIN. What was the first question God asked of man? These three words in English are one word in Hebrew—ayeka. When you read this, how do you imagine hearing the tone in His voice? In your imagination, does he sound angry? Disappointed? Sad? Frantic? Why do you imagine his voice and tone sounding that way?
Imagination? Tone of voice? Feelings? Why are we speculating and using our imaginations (about a passage in Genesis) instead of studying the text of Luke?
p. 31- Compassion is not so much an emotion that we feel. Compassion is a location- we are compassionate when we locate ourselves with someone in his or her pain. The Lord looked for Adam and Eve in the garden to meet them in their pain. Most of all, I imagine ayeka with a tone of compassion.
Their pain? They had sinned and rebelled against the holy God of the universe and they were ashamed and guilty. The remainder of Genesis 3 is God meting out the judgment and punishment of their sin. “Their pain”? This is an ungodly way of softening sin and its consequences (because now, when you sin, you’re in “pain” and God “meets you in your pain” with “compassion”), and it is not biblical regardless of how Kristi “imagines” it.
Throughout the Gospel of Luke, we will see Jesus practicing compassion—locating Himself with people right in the middle of their pain. He sought out and found the lost and offered to bring them home. He does the same today. Jesus is not afraid of our sin or our pain; He meets us there and offers to bring us home.
What would it look like for you to invite God to locate Himself with you in your pain today? Take a moment and praise God for His presence. Ask to feel His presence and compassion in your pain,
Me, me, me, and my feelings. This sounds really cozy, but where’s the repentance?
Once again, Kristi is softening sin and its consequences. Yes, Jesus was compassionate to repentant, believing sinners. But He didn’t “locate Himself with people right in the middle of their pain,” or “find the lost and offer to bring them home” (whatever that means). Jesus called sinners to repentance and to believe the gospel. He does the same today.
This “study” is quite disjointed. Kristi skips around all over the place, and at the end of the first 33 pages, the reader still hasn’t read any significant portion of Luke.
It’s like she’s using various verses from Luke (and other Scriptures) to support her historical theories. Kristi cherry picks a few verses here and there from Luke but never instructs the reader to sit down and read the opening chapters of Luke in their entirety. This is a history lesson supported by the Bible, not a Bible lesson informed by historical context.
And don’t get me wrong, historical context is fine, but this is a lot more history than Bible. It feels like what Kristi would really rather be doing is teaching Middle Eastern history and culture than the precepts of Scripture. Where a Lisa Harper or Beth Moore “study” would be largely personal anecdotes with a few out of context Bible verses sprinkled in to bolster whatever ideas they’re trying to teach, Kristi’s study is largely academic: etymology and historical/cultural anecdotes with a few out of context Bible verses sprinkled in to bolster the ideas she’s trying to teach.
And don’t be fooled by the academics. Every time Kristi cites a Greek word or relates a story from history or explains a Middle Eastern cultural concept, it boosts her stature and credibility in the eyes of the reader. “Wow! She really knows her Bible! What a great teacher! We’d better listen to her!”. But if you’ve ever taken a college level history or language class, you know that any pagan with an education can tell you what a word means or who was king two thousand years ago, and what he did.
Knowledge of Greek and Hebrew, and Middle Eastern history and culture is not the same thing as knowing Christ and His Word. Kristi demonstrates that with the fruit of her life: stealing the position of “pastor,” preaching to men, exercising authority over men, administering the Lord’s Supper and baptizing, yoking with false teachers, and teaching false doctrine. Jesus didn’t say, “by their degrees and education you will know them,” He said, “by their fruit you will know them”:
“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits. 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
Matthew 7:15-23
Kristi’s book learning and eloquence demands that you regard her as a mature, knowledgeable Christian and excellent teacher. But God says:
And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, truly in him the love of God has been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
1 John 2:3-6
Are you going to believe Kristi or are you going to believe God?
Kristi seems like a very nice person. She’s obviously smart and well educated. She’s charming and personable. But she’s not teaching the truth of Scripture, and the fruit of her life is rebellion against Scripture. She says in numerous “sermons” and interviews that she loves the Bible and that the only thing she ever wanted to do in life was to teach the Bible. But she rejects the Bible at every turn, whether it’s disobeying what the Bible says about the role of women in the church, or spending most of her writing or teaching time talking about things besides the Bible. For all of these reasons, with sadness, it is my recommendation that you obey Scripture and stay away from Kristi McLelland and all of her materials and resources.
1A special note to my fellow Southern Baptists: We have heard the SBC platform minimize numerous times in recent years the problem of SBC churches with women in the position of “pastor”. It’s supposedly such a non-existent problem that in May 2025, Keven Ezell, head of NAMB, said during a podcast interview that he would give $10K to anyone who could show him a NAMB church plant with a woman pastor. Now, COTC may not have been a NAMB church plant, but they certainly were (and still are as of the release date of this article) listed on the church finder at the SBC website the whole time Kristi (and other women “pastors” who are still on staff) was listed on COTC’s website as a “Teaching Pastor”.
2Again, Southern Baptists, let that sink in. For the past several years we’ve been told by SBC leadership that there’s virtually no issue with women pastors in the SBC. The Law/Sanchez amendment (to require that churches in friendly cooperation with the SBC must have only male pastors) to our constitution has failed to pass for three years in a row. And Lifeway – one of your Southern Baptist entities – welcomes men to be taught by a female “pastor”.
3Women who “pastor” or “preach” to men are false teachers because they teach via their behavior, example, and often their words, the false doctrine that you’re free to ignore and disobey any command of Scripture you don’t like, such as the commands forbidding women from pastoring, preaching, instructing men in the Scriptures, and holding authority over men in the gathering of the Body.
4“Divangelista” is just a slang term I coined because the phrase “popular women’s ‘Bible’ study authors” is too long and cumbersome for writing. It’s a combination of the words “diva” and “evangelical” and rhymes with “Sandinista” (if you’re old enough to remember them) for no particular reason.
